Ros-dev July 2006

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Reactos became closed?
by wac 17 Jul '06

17 Jul '06

Hi Folks: I don't see mails here since some time. Have ROS discusions moved to somewhere else or is just the sources revision process? Regards Waldo

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Re: [ros-dev] 0.3.0 RC1 Update
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

WaxDragon wrote: > The only bug > I'm concerned about right now is the broken links in the start menu, > which I think is even fixed in trunk. Nothing else can really be > addressed at this point. That is easily fixed with a small hack in the explorer code. It's certainly not a correct fix, but it will ensure the links work for this release and allow us to move on. If you agree, I'll change it tonight. Ged.

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Grievous and unwarranted mistreatment by a senior operator of the IRC channel
by Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Dear ReactOS Developers, I apologize for taking these extra ordinary steps in this matter but I could not locate another way of bringing this issue to attention on your site. I was in the IRC channel on the 11th July '06 from about 3am to 5am GMT... I was posing some very interesting and fundamental questions about how the project began, it's direction. I was pleased that after a few minutes most of the users had agreed that ReactOS is intending to be much more than just NT compatible but in a sense 'Windows + Better'. After this there was many hours of discussion of how to make it more than just a windows clone, many of such involving the idea of ReactOS being similar to Linux in some senses and how to get a Linux feel while maintaining windows compatibility. Near the end of the log (I hope these are saved, I have no copies myself) an 'Alex_Ionescu' joined in on the conversation. He had many interesting views that greatly heightened the debate to whether ReactOS should intend to be more than windows now, or at a later date. I was for the view that in order to gain a user base quicker that it must at least intent to be more than a clone and was trying to illustrate why. I first tried to illustrate this and got shot down due to my poor phrasing of what I meant. I tried to rephrase my point, and I began with a sentence talking about firefox as a metaphor of another great piece of floss software. I was interrupted by Alex_Ionescu (whom is an op in that channel) who told me i 'must' state my reason using a single statement only and began quoting regulations of the English language and structuring a proper argument... so many regulations in fact i feel even if I did comply it would be difficult to fit it in one statement. I decided to wait until Alex_Ionescu had given up on such a silly and clear attempt at limiting my free speech in this matter. However he persisted to want to know what my point was on this matter, when trying again... he shut me down. Eventually he set the entire channel to moderated status only so only those he selected could discuss the matter. Apparently this was until I could phrase my argument using just one statement. I waited until this was lifted and it was not, eventually I came back... spoke Spanish and under another nick! Granted this was to yet again give my point across... instead of this they knew who I was and quickly identified me. A silly tactic I know, but having done this I was quickly misquoted in the channel from my conversation with Alex_Ionescu about things I was trying to explain to him as well as very childish remarks as tho I had said "I love cock". I have high hopes for this project and wish it every success, I had a very enlightened experience up until meeting this person with the arguments put and listened and responded to them well. Alex_Ionescu on the other hand obviously has no understanding of what it means to express oneself freely, and it would seem has a childish nature too. I ask that the decision to give this person power of the level of communication about the project in the channel be reviewed as quickly as possible in light of these or other past events. Thank you, -- Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) Cyorxamp http://www.cyorxamp.info

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Re: [ros-dev] Status of xen port?
by Dmitriy Budko 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Reactos can be ported to VMI instead: http://www.vmware.com/interfaces/vmi_specs.html http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmi_specs.pdf It will allow reactos to switch between VMI and native HW on the fly. Dmitriy Budko VMware ________________________________ From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:54 AM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status of xen port? Can reactos be made to run on Xen or native hardware by detecting either one on the fly? Steven Edwards wrote: On 7/7/06, Pablo Menichini <pablo(a)menichini.com.ar> <mailto:pablo@menichini.com.ar> wrote: I look at xen port and it hasn't been touch in a year. Is it possible to port reactos to xen or is the kernel not mature enought? If it's possible, how long can it take to have a bare minimum port? Its possible there has just been a lack of developer resources. One of the developers had the boot loader ported however those changes were not merged in to the trunk.

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [fireball] 23005: [FORMATTING] / [AUDIT] - Cleanup a big coding-style mess - Add UNIMPLEMENTED macro in empty functions (otherwise we will never know if they are being called by a 3rd-party driver) - Add proper debug headers inclusion in every file - Add documentation headers into almost every file (except mcb.c and context.c - will be added later) - Standardize per-file headers (some files still lack contributors names, they will be added later too) No code change except for addin
by Alex Ionescu 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

fireball(a)svn.reactos.org wrote: > Author: fireball > Date: Tue Jul 11 01:03:26 2006 > New Revision: 23005 > > URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos?rev=23005&view=rev > Log: > [FORMATTING] / [AUDIT] > - Cleanup a big coding-style mess > - Add UNIMPLEMENTED macro in empty functions (otherwise we will never know if they are being called by a 3rd-party driver) > - Add proper debug headers inclusion in every file > - Add documentation headers into almost every file (except mcb.c and context.c - will be added later) > - Standardize per-file headers (some files still lack contributors names, they will be added later too) > > No code change except for adding UNIMPLEMENTED macros in the code. Name.c unlocked because the implementations of functions are trivial and in fact could be derived from their names. Not documented functions will be further reviewed. > Good work... two things: 1) I think Brandon wrote a tool which does documentation headers using TinyKRNL syntax. Since ROS's is the same (afaik), maybe you could talk to him about it instead of doing everything by hand :). 2) Most of the functions are documented in te IFS, I'm not aware of any undocumented FsRtl stuff... Captive also has implementations for nearly all of them, and Captive was clean-roomed. Best regards, Alex Ionescu

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Re: [ros-dev] 0.3.0 RC1 Update
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Brandon Turner wrote: > I have added a debug bootcd build of RC1 to sourceforge. > So anyone out there looking to get there hands one for > troubleshooting 0.3.0 can hop on there and grab it. We've had this up for 3 weeks now. Changes to trunk have been so heavy since we branched 0.3, we effectively now have two _very_ different versions of ReactOS .... heh Maybe our release process needs reviewing slightly ;) Ged.

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Re: [ros-dev] 0.3.0 RC1 Update
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Brandon Turner wrote: > Perhaps I am > mistaken on the process and missed the time I should have > made another > release. If this is the case please feel free to let me know > what I can > do to resolve the the problem. > > Brandon No no, nothing has gone wrong, I was just making an observation and putting some traffic on ros-dev ;) IIRC, a 2 month release cycle has been mentioned in the past. Going off our recent release speed, we'd struggle to hit 1 per year ;) At least we know ROS development is moving fast internally, even if releases aren't. Ged.

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Status report on Remote Desktop client - with screenshots!
by Michele Cicciotti 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

I opted for a different porting strategy than I originally thought. I simply couldn't work effectively outside of Visual Studio, so I decided to create a test application (rdesktop-core-tester), and turn the smallest subset possible of rdesktop into a statically-linked library (rdesktop-core). It needs a lot more work, but the results are very encouraging Here is the first screenshot *ever* of rdesktop running on pure Win32: <http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whohoo3ts.png> What's wrong with this picture, and why? All text is missing: text output in RDP is tedious. I'll rip the code off from the X11 version, but it's not vital for now. All bitmaps are black: this is a bug, or rather a peculiarity, of rdesktop, which passes only part of raster operation codes (specifically, the "source" mask), forcing me to do some bit-juggling to turn them back into valid GDI raster operation codes - just passing the "mutilated" code resulted in the code for the BLACKNESS operation every time, and I think it shows. "Shut down..." is upside down: this is a bitmap painted directly to the screen, without a raster operation, so it worked out of the box, unlike the Windows logo in the upper half of the dialog. It turns out RDP bitmaps are top-down, like the framebuffer but unlike regular bitmaps. Easily solved by creating all bitmaps with negative heights! Also, I could not go further than this point at the time, because keyboard input wasn't hooked up yet! I whipped up some quick support (very easy, just pass the scancodes on the wire), and of course fixed the aforementioned issues, tweaked a couple more things, blind-typed the password (no text output) and... <http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=meh9ct.png> ... eh. I expected a lot better. So many bugs. And I really don't understand why the strange "tile" effect... debugging drawing routines is a pain, let me tell you. I would love to have a night-time bug-hunt, but I have some *terrible* back pain, and it's becoming really hard to sit at my desk All in all, I must say I'm a bit disappointed that the rdesktop authors, who in general stayed true to the Win32 equivalents of RDP features, here and there placed annoying little idiosyncracies - like mutilating rasterops, or using their own structures instead of the "standard" LOGPEN, LOGBRUSH, etc. or calculating and passing around coordinates of left-top + dimensions when they're actually RECTs on the wire, forcing me to recalculate the RECT, and so on, and so on - that I *know* are going to cause me headaches in the days to come (the off-by-one-pixel bug must be caused by something like that) Well, that's all for this week! see you soon!

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0 lines patch
by Timo Kreuzer 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

| \|/ 22802 <http://www.anonymizer.ru/cgi-bin/webproxy?session=demo&url=http://svn.react…> trunk/reactos/subsystems/win32/csrss/win32csr/ <http://www.anonymizer.ru/cgi-bin/webproxy?session=demo&url=http://svn.react…> resource.h <http://www.anonymizer.ru/cgi-bin/webproxy?session=demo&url=http://svn.react…> 0/0 <http://www.anonymizer.ru/cgi-bin/webproxy?session=demo&url=http://svn.react…> Mon Jul 3 19:59:50 2006 UTC greatlrd *Log:* wrong propyty on inlcude file it is not a executable format Looks like this patch got lost somewhere...

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Re: [ros-dev] Hello list!
by Michele Cicciotti 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

Aleksey Bragin wrote: > thanks for sharing, we appreciate more often and better communication > with our SoC participants. sorry for the long periods of silence, but I'm currently without internet connectivity outside of weekends. It should go a lot better starting next week!

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