Team members and other interested parties,
At this month's meeting, we decided we had to have a talk about the growing
number of open pull requests. From such a discussion, we game up with a set
of rules that the team members should follow, when reviewing or managing
PRs.
If you are such a person, please take a moment to make sure you can agree
with those rules. There's a PR waiting for your input:
https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/585
Hi all!
Let me invite you to the May 2018 meeting, taking place this Thursday,
May 31, 2018 at 19:00 UTC.
Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the
meeting.
Based on requests and current topics, the agenda looks like this:
1. Status Reports
==============
Like last time, participants are requested to just post their
prepared reports again to not waste any minute.
2. Improving our handling of PRs and JIRA reports
==============================================
The global JIRA permissions have been changed this month and there
has been a lot of bad blood regarding issues marked as "trivial".
On the one hand, trivial PRs waste a lot of time of our core
developers as long as they are the only ones able to commit them.
On the other hand, trivial PRs still add minor improvements to the
code, so it would be wrong to just close them as invalid.
Let's have an open discussion on this topic and try to establish
rules we can all work with without taking this problem to a personal
level.
3. Google Summer of Code
=====================
This will be the first meeting, which could be joined by our GSoC
student Victor Perevertkin. If he or the mentors have questions that
are better discussed with all developers in the monthly meeting,
let's do this here.
4. Changes affecting base addresses
================================
Robert Naumann has requested adding this topic to the agenda.
He couldn't merge several PRs translating .mc files, because that
would blow up the kernel and require a regeneration of all base
addresses. He requested a brainstorming session in this meeting
to get to a conclusion how to deal with this problem.
I know that Joachim Henze has also attempted to change base addresses
lately to fix Photoshop CS2, so this is probably the right time to
deal with this problem.
Further topics can be requested by replying to this mail.
See you all on Thursday!
Best regards,
Colin
Hi!<br>
<br>
To that I see one solution, that has actually already been proposed in the PR:<br>
we make an external package (a la Wine gecko) that one can download during installation, or later through RAPPS.<br>
Then this package (possibly together with other heavy core ones?) could be hosted in some GitHub sub-repo or elsewhere...<br>
Closing the PR now would definitely not be the right solution.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
H.<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12px"></span>
<div class="gl_quote" style="margin-top: 20px; padding-top: 5px;">De : "Colin Finck"<br>
A : ros-dev(a)reactos.org<br>
Envoyé: mercredi 30 mai 2018 18:21<br>
Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (May 2018)<br>
<div class="gl_quoted">Am 30.05.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Ged Murphy:<br>
> Potential problems are:<br>
> 4) something else?<br>
<br>
I've been struggling with e.g. https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/276<br>
<br>
On the one hand, we definitely need official support for Chinese,<br>
Korean, and Japanese character sets.<br>
On the other hand, this must not bloat up ReactOS by default, and just<br>
dropping a 12 MB font into the repository definitely does.<br>
So what is the ideal solution? I don't even know myself.<br>
<br>
- I could leave the PR open and hope that the submitter addresses my<br>
comments and comes up with a better solution. That hasn't happened in<br>
the last months.<br>
<br>
- I could close the PR right away. That would give the submitter no<br>
chance to address my comments and may even look disrespectful. And the<br>
original problem tends to be forgotten.<br>
<br>
- I could close the PR and open a JIRA issue describing the problem.<br>
If we decide on that as a general rule, we would put another burden on<br>
every reviewer. Additionally, such general JIRA issues tend to rot in<br>
our database as well.<br>
<br>
I think we often have this situation where the submitted PR is wrong,<br>
but we don't know the right solution either, and therefore keep the PR<br>
open. If we can better deal with these cases, the number of open PRs may<br>
decrease significantly.<br>
<br>
<br>
- Colin<br>
<br>
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<div class="gl_quoted"> </div>
</div>
Phoronix has published an article regarding 0.4.9, but Community Changelog is a month behind! They gave links despite warnings!
Please get the news deleted until I make an update!!!
Hello. I am wondering if testman source code is available to download.
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> 1. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
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> 2. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 01:02:53 +0200
> From: Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com>
> To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> Message-ID:
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>
> as an alternative, Apache OpenOffice still supports NT5
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM, David Quintana (gigaherz) <
> gigaherz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No need to panick, they themselves link to this as an archive of old
> > versions: https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/
> libreoffice/old/
> > So even if it's gone from their own site, it should remain there.
> >
> > On 6 May 2018 at 00:30, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
> elhoir(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> hello again guys,
> >>
> >> What if we get latest NT5 libreoffice version (5.4.6 as of now, and
> >> 5.4.7-rc1 is out) just for testing purposes? i guess it will be dropped
> >> from official website, andi don´t know if it will be still available in
> any
> >> way......
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Michael Fritscher <
> michael(a)fritscher.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> is there a list which need to be done to get the basic NT6 architecture
> >>> just to get feeling how much work it is? Sadly, I'm afraid that we'll
> >>> need a proper NT6 architecture to get modern drivers running, won't we?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Michael Fritscher
> >>>
> >>> On 30.06.2017 11:46, Ged Murphy wrote:
> >>> > That’s what’s currently being worked on.
> >>> >
> >>> > The kernel still closely follows the NT5.2 architecture, but user
> mode
> >>> will have NT6+ compatibility shims to allow modern applications to run
> >>> correctly.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > From: Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> ajaczgz(a)yahoo.es
> >>> > Sent: 30 June 2017 05:47
> >>> > To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >>> codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I think it’s no neccesary to implement NT6, only to avoid the
> >>> compatibility tests to NT6 and implement only the characteristics that
> the
> >>> most of the programs uses.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Best regards
> >>> >
> >>> > Antonio J. Arrieta Cuartero
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Enviado desde mi Lumia 635 con Windows 10 Mobile
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > De: Riccardo Paolo Bestetti <mailto:riccardo.kyogre@live.it>
> >>> > Enviado: jueves, 29 de junio de 2017 22:11
> >>> > Para: ReactOS Development List <mailto:ros-dev@reactos.org>
> >>> > Asunto: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> codeline
> >>> tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hello Colin,
> >>> >
> >>> > As this definitely wasn't the predominant thinking the last time this
> >>> same discussion took place, Hermès' email scared me a bit. Thank you so
> >>> much for clarifying.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Best regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> >
> >>> > From: Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] On Behalf Of
> Colin
> >>> Finck
> >>> >
> >>> > Sent: giovedì 29 giugno 2017 20:00
> >>> >
> >>> > To: ros-dev(a)reactos.org <mailto:ros-dev@reactos.org>
> >>> >
> >>> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >>> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Rest assured, we know that ReactOS won't be of much use if we stay
> >>> NT5-only. Work is underway to provide a seamless support of NT6
> >>> applications on top of the existing codebase.
> >>> >
> >>> > Also the majority of developers should be using an NT6 platform
> >>> themselves, so they certainly aim for support for NT6 applications.
> >>> >
> >>> > Finally, applications compiled by modern versions of Visual Studio
> are
> >>> NT6-only by default, so supporting this platform is unavoidable.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Just my two cents, as the previous replies could lead you to believe
> >>> we're failing the reality check.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers,
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Colin
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Am 29.06.2017 um 18:54 schrieb Riccardo Paolo Bestetti:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I’m just gonna snap in for my yearly IT guy NT6 rant: this mindset
> is
> >>> >
> >>> >> going to kill the project by making it useless whenever it reaches a
> >>> >
> >>> >> usable state.
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> Windows XP/Server 2003 use is **already** marginal as of today, and
> >>> >
> >>> >> it’s only gonna get “worse” as more and more networks get infected
> by
> >>> >
> >>> >> ransomware and institutions all over the world wake up and update
> >>> (and
> >>> >
> >>> >> as time passes of course). It’s not a matter of “fancy”, it is a
> >>> >
> >>> >> matter of what people use on their computers. With that argument you
> >>> >
> >>> >> may as well advocate for DOS.
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> Please don’t be offended, as always this is only intended as a
> >>> reality
> >>> >
> >>> >> check.
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> Best regards,
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> *From:*Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] *On Behalf Of
> >>> >
> >>> >> *Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO
> >>> >
> >>> >> *Sent:* giovedì 29 giugno 2017 16:09
> >>> >
> >>> >> *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' <ros-dev(a)reactos.org <mailto:
> >>> ros-dev(a)reactos.org> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >>> >
> >>> >> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> I’m wondering for which useless / fancy features they need Windows
> 7+
> >>> >
> >>> >> support only….
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> H.
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> *De :*Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] *De la part de*
> >>> >
> >>> >> Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo *Envoyé :* jeudi 29 juin 2017 15:48
> >>> *À
> >>> >
> >>> >> :* ReactOS Development List *Objet :* [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice
> >>> 5.4
> >>> >
> >>> >> will be the last codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.4.0/RC1
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >> FYI
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
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