Hi all!
Our IServ system used for mail and mailinglists will be down for
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Hello everyone!
We've got accepted to FOSDEM 2021, which (as you may already know) will be going online.
FOSDEM provides a place on their stands website, we need to prepare a page for that.
There is also a place for videos in case we want to share some :)
Their website uses Hugo and is available on Github (https://github.com/FOSDEM/stands-website)
The documentation is provided here: https://github.com/FOSDEM/stands-website/blob/master/README.md
Let's discuss what should we present there, there is not that much time left! The conference is held on 6-7 February
Cheers,
Victor
What about that discussion about why we have ditched out MSVC 2010 support
(starting to depend on that fact, and thus, breaking any possibility of
self-hosting ROS building on ROS using MSVC compiler (without the IDE),
since later versions of MSVC only work on Vista+, and as an indirect
consequence, too, opening the can of worms, that is, being able to
"pollute", involuntarily or not, the ReactOS core code (kernel + drivers)
with C99+ non-standard portable code -- ),
and without having first warned heavily through all the mailing lists etc. ,
thus allowing the developers to voice their concerns publicly in the MLs ?
This was done around in mattermost only, after we decided for some reason
that we wouldn't need the VC2010 buildbots anymore.
Hermes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org> On Behalf Of Colin Finck
Sent: Sun Nov 15 17:24:22 UTC 2020
To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Subject: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2020)
Hi all,
With several people asking for a status meeting, let's have another one
before the year is over.
Let me invite you to the meeting on
Thursday, 26th November 2020
19:00 UTC
Mattermost private channel "Meeting"
So far, there is only one point on the agenda:
* Achievements and Future Outlook (everyone)
What have you been working on and what are your plans?
Please submit further agenda proposals by answering to this mail.
Looking forward to see you!
Colin
I wanted to add, that vgal and Doug Lyons were also favoring continued VS2010 support, as we can see clearly
in the PRs discussion https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/2658
Please do count also those contributors voices.
Some more regarding some brought up arguments:
>>"BTRFS and its sync will benefit from the drop":
I see a working BTRFS in 0.4.14RC60, which has VS2010 support.
And I see a totally broken BTRFS that does not even boot at all any longer in master head 0.4.15-dev-1605-gab45955.
A fact.
>>"We should replace all proven compilers with superior Clang"
I have not seen a ros yet, that would even boot at all with Clang.
Also according to discussions they do still lack SEH 32bit support.
And even if they would develop that one day, how big will the resulting ros isos be then?
And that still would not solve the compat to older build platforms 2k3sp2/XPSP3 and ros.
Wishful thinking just.
>>"We need the drop for the new standard library."
And where is that library? No one did ever integrate that into ros, although the compilers drop has been rushed into master months ago already.
As Hermes said already: I see no gain, but I do see a lot of pain and unfinished WIP+wishful thinking.
Hello guys,
I have just read at Facebook that Andrew Greenwood's father (andrew's nick
is *silverblade* at ReactOS) passed away last night due to CoVid19.