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replacement for winecalc
by Timo Kreuzer 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Hi, Someone from the forum has written a replacement for winecalc and asks, if we would want to use it. I think it deserves some attention: http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3585 - The code is smaller than winecalc. - It seems to (almost, see below) work correctly as far as I have tested (type 2+3*4 in winecalc and you will get 12 as result....) - brackets are working (not implemented in winecalc) - inv is working (not implemented in winecalc) - It looks a little better than winecalc "bugs" found so far: - there's an issue with foucs, that is put on a button when switching to another app - grad calculates with 200 instead of 400 = 360° - modulo and hyp seem unimplemented - you can't use and, xor, ... in dec mode Greetings, Timo

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [janderwald] 26147: - fix makefiles to depend on TOOLS_OUT_ value than directly hardcoding it to $(OUTPUT)
by Aleksey Bragin 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

This breaks the very beginnings of the compile process. WBR, Aleksey Bragin. On Mar 20, 2007, at 11:12 PM, janderwald(a)svn.reactos.org wrote: > Author: janderwald > Date: Tue Mar 20 23:12:10 2007 > New Revision: 26147 > > URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos?rev=26147&view=rev > Log: > - fix makefiles to depend on TOOLS_OUT_ value than directly > hardcoding it to $(OUTPUT) >

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hello out there
by Tim Taubert 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

Hi, I am from Berlin, Germany and really interested in joining the ROS project as a developer. I started as proposed with digging into the code a little bit and wrote some patches. So my first question is, which developer (with svn write access) do i have to contact so that he can help my to review and (hopefully) apply some of my patches? Second thing is that i read that you are already planning a complete rewrite of the explorer code. I would really like to be a part of the explorer project but others are also welcome. If you have any idea how to start just let me know. With best regards, Tim Taubert

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Summer of Code 2007?
by Nate DeSimone 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

Hi all, Is ReactOS doing SoC this year? I didn't see you on the list, though I know you did it last year. ~Nate DeSimone

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Build problem ()
by Radu Bulboaca 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hi, I tried to build the ReactOS main trunk, but I've run into some problems. 'make all' fails with the message: mkdir: cannot create directory `obj-i386\\lib\\inflib_host': No such file or directory Up until now, I've got the 'trunk' directory from SVN (using TortoiseSVN), I exported the sources to a directory in the ros Build Environment (I was asked for that directory on install) and attempted to build from there. I also looked at the Makefile and set the '-mi' flag (ROS_RBUILDFLAGS = -mi), but that didn't help. Just for the record, I'm building on a WinXP SP2, using ReactOS Build Environment 0.3.5b2. I also tried the 0.3.4 version, but I run into the same issues. Do you have any ideas? Thanks, Radu

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Re: [ros-dev] Endianess
by Tristan Miller 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

>Sorry for waiting until now to reply. It's all good. : ) >What do you think? I think we should convert to BE, but not away from PE-COFF. There are too many differences between them, and while it would be less work in the short term to switch to ELF, in the long term, implementing all of the features of PE would be very troublesome. Not the least concern is that information such as import data and file headers aren't even mapped into a process's address space with ELF. As I understand it, when you get an IHANDLE to a linked in DLL it's just a pointer to the mapped in PE file header. I'm sure there are programs that require this on a source level to run (which, for quite some time will be the only thing that affects us on the PowerPC side of things). That being said, a proper pe-powerpcbe target in gcc should then be the first priority. Binutils already more or less properly creates pe-powercbe files (with what I assume are your patches on the wiki, and a little monkeying to make sure that the MZ header and PE signature are always written as little-endian regardless of the target architecture). What kind of issues had you had on the EABI side of things, and what was your plan in more detail for emulating the features of PE in ELF? Also how much progress had you made in the port up to now? ~Tristan Miller (monocasa)

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Interest in ReactOS and some requets
by Arko Provo Mukherjee 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

Dear friends, We are 3 undergrad comp sc. and IT students from India. We have some coding experience but have never worked for the Open Source Community as developers. Yet we have always admired the concept and used FLOSS stuff like GNU/Linux. We came across ReactOS project and got really interested in it. We really want to contribute to the development of React OS and since we are new in Open Source development, we would require your guidance and support in stuff like understanding the code, building the build environment etc. Among other shortfalls that we have, we haven't programmed much on Windows platform (almost always Linux ie) and hence know little about the Windows API. But we are eager to learn and can definitely learn parts of the API as long as you can guide us. We humbly request you to guide us and give us some problems so that we can try and support this community. A lot is left to be done in ReactOS and it would be great being a part of such a project. Also we are better at writing C codes than reading them ( like almost everyone ;) ) and hence would request you to give us some problems that we can write from stratch rather than bug fixing that would require reading all codes. But we are ready to contribute in any way you feel we can as developers and support this community. Regards Arko Provo Mukherjee Abhishek Biswas Biswanath Banik

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How can I help?
by Sam Banks 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

Hi Guys I have recently discovered ReactOS through my research for Linuxforums.org, I have written an article on ReactOS, which should show up online in the near future. Basically I like your work and I would be keen to contribute some of my (unfortunately limited) time and skills to your project. I cant code but I can write ok. Could I be of any use to you guys? Cheers Sam -- Did you know that if you play a Windows XP cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows XP.

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Endianess
by Tristan Miller 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

Hey, Sorry, having problems with internet or else I'd ask this on IRC. I was curious as to why the emphasis on little-endian mode in powerpc. Mac G5's don't even have le-mode, and it definitely seems that (although im not totally sure, as theres not much info out in the wild yet) that the XBox360 lacks le-mode as well. Also, on the processors that support le-mode, it seems in all cases (although theres probably some embedded guy that I'm missing : P) that do support it, it's selectable at the minimum at the user/supervisor level with only a bit of work. Perhaps eventually a thunking layer (maybe a part of NTVDM, would it need to be that complex?) that would translate the calls from le usermode to a be kernel could be written, allowing one to run NT-PPC applications that are out there. We wouldn't be able to load drivers (or any le kernel code), but are there actually any PPC drivers out in the wild? Plus, it seems that it would definitely be a good thing for the kernel source to be tested on multiple endians as early as possible in its development to ease porting later on. ~ Tristan Miller (monocasa)

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [ion] 26032: - Tree cleanups proposed on the mailing list. Move all non-Core OS modules to rosapps. Tests were already moved by Fireball to rostests.
by Aleksey Bragin 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

It's all about re-thinking what rosapps is. Initially it was supposed to be a place for various "app"lications. Right now it turned out to become a kind of a trashcan, where stuff unapplicable for trunk goes. Since this is wrong, it's perfectly fine to "force" devs to build with rosapps (and rostests, if they are interested in thorough testing) module. Otherwise, with make/make all, we again end up with rudimentary rosapps. Also there will be some kind of "unmaintained" module (undecided yet - discussions are welcome) where some stuff from rosapps is going to be moved (which is not currently maintained, and not interesting for devs). WBR, Aleksey. On Mar 9, 2007, at 2:38 AM, Ged Murphy wrote: > Upon thinking about this, I'm not sure it's such a good idea with > respect to usermode stability as it will get less testing now from > non-included apps. > > This would allow us to have the best of both world. > Many of the tests we run at application level rely on the apps which > have just been moved being easily accessable. > If these are gone, I suspect less feedback will be collected about the > status of usermode. > > Ged.

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Re: [ros-dev] How can I help?
by Aleksey Bragin 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

Hi, yes definately. Our project would certainly benefit from a good PR and spread the word, because it eventually brings new developers and thus development speed rises. Thanks a lot, and feel free to email here or me. With the best regards, Aleksey Bragin. On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:20 AM, Sam Banks wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have recently discovered ReactOS through my research for > Linuxforums.org, I have written an article on ReactOS, which should > show up online in the near future. Basically I like your work and I > would be keen to contribute some of my (unfortunately limited) time > and skills to your project. I cant code but I can write ok. > > Could I be of any use to you guys? > > Cheers > > Sam

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [ion] 26032: - Tree cleanups proposed on the mailing list. Move all non-Core OS modules to rosapps. Tests were already moved by Fireball to rostests.
by Ged Murphy 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

ion(a)svn.reactos.org wrote: > Author: ion > Date: Thu Mar 8 21:59:45 2007 > New Revision: 26032 > > URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos?rev=26032&view=rev > Log: > - Tree cleanups proposed on the mailing list. Move all non-Core OS modules to rosapps. Tests were already moved by Fireball to rostests. > This will break 'make bootcd' Upon thinking about this, I'm not sure it's such a good idea with respect to usermode stability as it will get less testing now from non-included apps. Another idea, instead of moving everything out of the main trunk would be to give each component a new tag in rbuild. This tag could be something like core="yes|no". Everything which has been moved to rosapps could be labeled with a core="no" 2 new build commands would be available, make core and make corebootcd. This would allow us to have the best of both world. Many of the tests we run at application level rely on the apps which have just been moved being easily accessable. If these are gone, I suspect less feedback will be collected about the status of usermode. Ged.

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [fireball] 25971: ReactOS FOSDEM 2007 talk slides
by Aleksey Bragin 04 Mar '07

04 Mar '07

I forgot to mention that I used Ged Murphy's .ppt as a base (design mostly), and I used some parts of information about the kernel given by Alex Ionescu. WBR, Aleksey Bragin. On Mar 3, 2007, at 4:18 PM, fireball(a)svn.reactos.org wrote: > Author: fireball > Date: Sat Mar 3 16:17:47 2007 > New Revision: 25971 > > URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos?rev=25971&view=rev > Log: > ReactOS FOSDEM 2007 talk slides

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Re: [ros-dev] Ros-dev Digest, Vol 31, Issue 1
by Aleksey Bragin 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Setting autoreply while being subscribed to a mailing list - that's something not good to do. Unsubscribed... WBR, Aleksey Bragin. On Mar 2, 2007, at 2:02 PM, tim-sobolev wrote: > В связи с седлительностью сервера ящик обьявлен закрытым > Адресат переехал на tim тточчка sobolev сссоббаккка gmail ттточчка ком > _______________________________________________

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Re: [ros-dev] Hello all
by Aleksey Bragin 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, thanks for your interest. Yes, Arty is indeed The Man to contact regarding the PPC port, but anyway post your questions here if you can't catch him on irc, and they will be answered sooner or later. WBR, Aleksey Bragin. On Mar 2, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Tristan Miller wrote: > Hey everyone, > I'm interested in becoming a kernel developer, especially with > the PowerPC port. Almost all of my experience comes from > supervisor code (or embedded systems without MMU's), or from type- > safe byte-code (and ironically enough, a weird combination of the > two). However, this would be the first project that I've worked > with others on. Any idea's where I should start. Those on IRC > specifically pointed out Arty in regards to the PowerPC. > > ~Tristan Miller

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Re: [ros-dev] Ros-dev Digest, Vol 31, Issue 1
by tim-sobolev 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

В связи с седлительностью сервера ящик обьявлен закрытым Адресат переехал на tim тточчка sobolev сссоббаккка gmail ттточчка ком

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Hello all
by Tristan Miller 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hey everyone, I'm interested in becoming a kernel developer, especially with the PowerPC port. Almost all of my experience comes from supervisor code (or embedded systems without MMU's), or from type-safe byte-code (and ironically enough, a weird combination of the two). However, this would be the first project that I've worked with others on. Any idea's where I should start. Those on IRC specifically pointed out Arty in regards to the PowerPC. ~Tristan Miller

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [dgorbachev] 25911: Indonesian translation by Zaenal Mutaqin
by Aleksey Bragin 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

On Feb 27, 2007, at 3:04 AM, dgorbachev(a)svn.reactos.org wrote: > Author: dgorbachev > Date: Tue Feb 27 03:04:43 2007 > New Revision: 25911 > > URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos?rev=25911&view=rev > Log: > Indonesian translation by Zaenal Mutaqin > > -= skip =- > trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/mm/npool.c > I don't think that was intended, so please undo the change. WBR, Aleksey Bragin.

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dcote info
by Dominic Cote 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

Hi, Just a quick email to let you know that I am a kernel programmer working with Alex. I am now working on the fsrtl lib. I am almost done with fastio.c at this point. Thanks --Dom

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Re: [ros-dev] Marlett font
by mf 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

> Nevertheless the fonts should look fine with default settings. But it may look better with all features enabled. Fonts look fine, yes, but don't expect them to look better by adding bytecode which is IGNORED. Sigh, mf

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Re: [ros-dev] Marlett font
by mf 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

Thomas Weidenmueller wrote: > No, the disabled functionality doesn't affect the output in any way > except speed. Only the byte code interpreter is affected by patents, but > the hinting is still done correctly, although slower. Exactly. This byte code is the hinting that Ged suggests embedding in our Marlett font. Of course freetype still hints, but it ignores the bytecode and works around it. Hence embedding hints in the TTF would be rather useless. Ask wierd_w, he's been having a lot of trouble with hinting and freetype. The only solution we could come up with is adding a hack for greyscale bitmap fonts that substitute the outlines for certain font sizes. mf

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Re: [ros-dev] Marlett font
by mf 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

Hi, > Another area that will need attention is adding hints to all the glyphs and > making it a TTF. Patent pansies have disabled hinting in ReactOS' freetype. So hinting will do us no good, as hints are not parsed by the font engine. Regards, mf

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Interesting article series about NT 6 ntoskrnl on MS TechNet
by Klemens Friedl 23 Feb '07

23 Feb '07

Inside the Windows Vista Kernel: Part 1: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/02/VistaKernel/Defa… Inside the Windows Vista Kernel: Part 2: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/03/VistaKernel/Defa…

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Fwd: Important Daylight Savings Time Update for Developers
by David Johnson 22 Feb '07

22 Feb '07

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Marlett font
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 22 Feb '07

22 Feb '07

I have a patch to move all the functionality of DrawFrameControl over to the Marlett font, but before I add it I think the font needs a bit more work. We have the outlines for all the glyphs in trunk under media/fonts/marlett.ttf, but they need some TLC. One thing which stands out are the caption buttons. Drawn at 10pt, which is what is used for regular caption bars, they don't appear as clearly as they should. Another area that will need attention is adding hints to all the glyphs and making it a TTF. I have no experience with fonts, hence me writing this mail to ask if any font designers are willing to help make our Marlett font complete. Cheers, Ged. Registered Office: PO Box 1 Salford Road, Over Hulton, Bolton, BL5 1DD. Registered in England: No. 2375355 The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)eu.exide.com <mailto:postmaster@eu.exide.com> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com <www.exide.com>

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