Hi all
See the mail below; I'll forward any comments on.
Personally I think the best solution would be able to have ROS
identify drives connected via USB and install directly onto such
drives.
Cheers
Jason
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Konrad Strachan <treeonthemountainside(a)gawab.com>
Date: Jun 4, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: 'Portable ROS'
To: jason.filby(a)gmail.com
Dear Jason Filby,
I have been experimenting for a while with putting whole operating
systems of removable drives for the purpose of booting a portable OS
and interface anywhere. I have been able to do this with ReactOS, but
it is much harder. The reason is the manner in which ROS distributions
are released. Unless 0.3.0 differs from the last few releases, all
that will be released is a CD iso image to install onto a hard drive
and Qemu emulation image. Whilst these would suit most of the people
who are interested in playing with ROS, it makes it very difficult to
make a portable version. I initially experimented with taking the boot
loader from the install CD and using the emulation image (and various
other permutations..) , but I have not been able to make it work. The
only way I have been able to make a working portable image is through
actually burning the iso image and installing ROS onto an old hard
drive, taking that image including the boot sector, and writing it to
a USB drive. This worked but it was a very roundabout way of doing it.
Furthermore, it is not a case of grafting the new distribution onto
the boot loader I have already taken from the previous installation
due to various changed in the boot loading code with the release of
0.2.6. What I am asking, is that you make available the boot loader
from the installed version of the software with each release in an
image file. I think a lot more people would be drawn to ROS if it
could be used in this manner. Please let me know what you think and
keep up the excellent work :p
Warm Regards
Konrad Strachan.
http://treeonthemountainside.cjb.nethttp://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~konr/bootlinux.html
Irony is a bitter mistress. Vim line-wrapped me at 72
characters, whereas Yahoo wraps at 54. I very recently
started to use sendymail, which pipes my text through
the Yahoo web interface, and quite obviously doesn't
run things through fmt before-hand -- hence the nasty
line filling. As such, I've decided to practice what I
preach, and reformat my letter.
I wish I could say it was intentional (the end result
was just too perfect in illustrating the point), but
it was an honest mistake.
Cheers.
-- Travis
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:29:45PM -0700, Quandary
wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:03:48PM -0500, Rick
> Langschultz wrote:
> >
> > I use Outlook XP to compose mail to my boss and
> > to a support team. I have to use HTML formatting
> > in my mail messages. Sorry for the inconvenience
> > I have caused. If people want to get picky about
> > the mail format and not the content of the
> > message, they should re-evaluate their purposes
> > involved in developing code, and material for
> > computers.
>
> If you've ever tried to read an XML/HTML message in
> a plain-text reader (such as mutt, which is my
> client of choice), you would understand why folks
> complain.
>
> To draw an analogy as to how silly your claim is
> (that the formatting should be ignored completely),
> consider the following scenarios:
>
> 1. A huge C program that works, but has no comments
> and obfuscated code.
> "If you can't understand it without comments,
> you should re-evaluate your programming
> ability."
>
> 2. A patch that has thousands of formatting changes
> intermixed with bugfixes.
> "If you can't appreciate the functionality of a
> freely offered patch that seems to fix a bug,
> you should re-evaluate your stance as a
> community-based project."
>
> 3. Documentation provided in rendered PS (or
> another opaque format).
> "If you can't appreciate the accuracy and user-
> friendliness of the documentation, you should
> re-evaluate your position on having a well-
> documented system."
>
>
> See, these are all silly. It's easy for one side to
> just ignore the other -- yes, you may need whatever
> formatting HTML provides you for work
> correspondence; it's easy for you to forget that
> it's even there. Likewise, it's easy for those of
> us who edit and send raw text to ignore how
> engrained HTML can be in some mail front-ends. But
> at the end of the day, the lowest common
> denominator is plain-text -- and that's something
> folks will expect you to conform to.
>
> Just like a patch with a thousand formatting
> changes, now matter how many bugs it fixes, it will
> be rejected. So to with your mails -- no matter how
> good the merit is, if we have to mind-parse the
> gibberish, it's just going to be outright rejected.
>
>
> Thanks for understanding,
>
>
> -- Travis
>
>
>
> > Rick Langschultz wrote:
> >
> > > <html xmlns:o=
> > > 3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"=
> > > xmlns:w=
> > > 3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"=
> > > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
> >
> > [lots and lots of useless XML tags mixed in an
> > unholy cesspool with HTTP snipped]
> >
> > Could you please trim that crap? I am, as I hope
> > the majority of list subscribers are too, not
> > especially interested in that you wrote an e-mail
> > in MSWord and that your "SpellingState" is
> > "Clean".
> >
> > Please use plain-text only.
> >
> > Thank you for your cooperation.
> >
> > /Mike
> >
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I just noticed that this was sent to ros-web only.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mikko Tikkanen <mikko.tikkanen(a)gmail.com>
Date: May 16, 2005 10:48 PM
Subject: [ros-web] Re: Interface Team
To: ros-web(a)reactos.com
Greetings.
I am the other half of Jason's "list", the half that (usually)
responds to the name Mikko.
Something about me: I've seen 25 summers, so far. (a.k.a I'm 25-years
old ;) This summer would be my 26th. Usually my interests include
badminton, rollerskating, bandy, gentle loving of my car (My one and
only honey at the time. Hey, at least she's cheaper than a woman ;),
movies, programming, reading (Usually different articles of various
topics. Specially anything regarding of science.) and some sort of
graphics.
I've studied something that goes like this: Special-vocational degree,
developing network solutions. (Level of studies ranging from quite
basic to university level) Basically it includes designing and
developing specified tools that utilize network in some way. Tools
used included C/C++, Java/JavaScript, PHP. Though I have worked with
VisualBasic, ASP, TCL and some other languages.
Nowdays I mostly work basically with PHP and SQL of some sort.
(Usually with MySQL, Postgre or Oracle) +xhtml & css
Oh, and of course there is High school.
Also, at the fall I'm hoping to get to this school which teaches
interactivity designing. Basically everything ranging from physical UI
design to game-, concept- or web design. However, my aim would to
specialize in UI design. (And, of course, ultimately have my own
company. 8) I've already cleared my way to last ~30 persons, now it's
30% change of getting in. 26th day are final exams and interviews for
the school and after that it's a months wait and results should be
here. Keep your thumbs up! :)
Next to UI related stuff. I've worked, in some way or another, with
www-applications for about 6-8 years. Also I like to educate myself so
I've taken some courses and trainings on it. Also, I was in charge of
design, production and maintaining of information gathering and
analysis tools at Inmet Mining, Pyhäsalmi mine Oy. Europe's deepest
metal ore mine and most technologically advanced mine in the world.
Some of those tools are used by miners who didn't have very much
experience with computers. Hence they needed to be easy to use yet
able to utilize enough power, for experienced user, to dig out every
last piece of information needed, regarding of i.e. certain ore
loading machine.
At my current job (head of sales, at paper. usually I lots of other
things too) I've created complete network-based software for the
shop's check-out. It also includes real time accounting for store,
billing and web-shop. Of course all this is wrapped to single user
interface. Which, sadly, has as good UI as I would like but there are
other matters which keep me busy from re-creating the whole system.
I've always been interested of UI design and have read pretty much
everything I've come across with. Of course, depending of the source.
;) When designing something I've always tried position myself as the
regular user and tried to forget all the "invisible" little helpers
that I am used to, since regular user usually doesn't have a clue.
Moms and dads actually make pretty good user test subjects as they
don't use computers that much but know their way around. ;)
I've also made initial design for a game called Notrium.
Lately I've made some initial mockups for ROS.
For software library:
http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/software_library_v2.jpg
And for ROS start menu:
http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/start_menu.jpg
Hmm. This turned to another rant, it seems.
-mikko
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Hi,
Does anyone know where rbuild creates the map files now? With all this
discussion on having easy to use debugging, it seems that having the map
files is the most important thing of them all. Can this functionality
please be added back to rbuild, or can someone show me if there's a flag
or something? I can't live without map files..how are you supposed to
debug without them??
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. RE: Trademark filing for the name ReactOS and
> Logo
> (Sylvain Petreolle)
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:39:07 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Sylvain Petreolle <spetreolle(a)yahoo.fr>
> Subject: RE: [ros-dev] Trademark filing for the name
> ReactOS and Logo
> To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.com>,
> ros-foundation(a)reactos.org
> Message-ID:
>
<20050602093907.66843.qmail(a)web26806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> --- Steven Edwards <steven_ed4153(a)yahoo.com> a écrit
> :
>
> > Hi All,
> > I am going to be meeting with my laywer on friday
> to file the paperwork for trademark name
> > ReactOS
> > and the logo in the state of South Carolina. The
> filing cost is going to be $500 for the state
> > filing and I assume the same or about for the
> federal. I have to use another lawyer for the
> > federal filing. I am not soliciting donations but
> if you would like to contribute to the cause I
> > have setup a new paypal account for
> reactos.foundation(a)gmail.com
> >
> > Thanks
> > Steven
> all right, did a 15$ donation to the new Paypal
> account
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Usurp (aka Sylvain Petreolle)
>
> humans are like computers,
> yesterday the BIOS was all
> - today its just a word
>
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I wish to contribute, but i have never used Paypal,
more, i dont like to give my credit card number to a
system i dont know and dont truly trust, could you
give me a real address? that way i can send you a
letter with some money (Euros, unless i manage to
exchange it somewhere).
I can not code but i can contribute.
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I have been unable to boot or install a DBG=0 build since yesterday
(yesterday being the first time I have tried in a while). Has anyone
tried a DBG=0 build either via bootcd or "make install"? The bootcd
will load the drivers then stack fault VMWare, and just hang qemu. A
"make install" seems to just hang. The last DBG=0 build I have is
pre-rbuild, 176 versions ago. Anyone have a working DBG=0 bootcd that
is more recent than mine? I'm trying to narrow down the regression.
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 9.0M 2005-05-27 15:11
ReactOS-15546M_release.iso <-- This one works.
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-28 20:50 ReactOS-15606M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-29 16:43 ReactOS-15648:15668M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-28 21:36 ReactOS-15648M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 12M 2005-05-29 12:26 ReactOS-15648M.iso.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-29 17:19 ReactOS-15671M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-30 09:42 ReactOS-15677M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-31 10:29 ReactOS-15695M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-31 12:42 ReactOS-15702M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-31 21:35 ReactOS-15710M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-06-01 16:25 ReactOS-15716M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-06-01 20:59 ReactOS-15722M.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-06-01 21:46
ReactOS-15722M_release.iso <-- This one is broken.
WD
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Filip Navara wrote:
> I did that sometime ago in my local tree. The problem is that it makes
> the resources uneditable in the MSVC builtin resource editor (since the
> included files aren't taken into account). Also I noticed some of the
> neutral image resources are currently inside the LANG_GERMAN block...
Do our resource files need to be MSVC ResEd compatible?
If they do, I'm guessing this is gonna cause issues for many other resource
files too, as we know how 'odd' the MS resource editor is.
I don't have a copy of MSVC so I can't test, but does MSVC still allow
building and linking of .rc files written in formats other than the MSVC
standard? (e.g. by hand)
I know this is a constraint in the future for the building of ROS under
MSVC.
Regards,
Ged.
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fireball(a)svn.reactos.com wrote:
>First version of Explorer's translation into Russian. Done by Dmitry Philippov, checked by me, DarkHobbit and others.
>But still needs extensive checking.
>
>
>Updated files:
>trunk/reactos/subsys/system/explorer/explorer_intres.rc
>
>
Would it not be better to start splitting this file?
It has quite a lot of languages in it now and is getting pretty big.
Ged.
Hi,
James - please, could you tell me the purpose of 15720 commit? "Adding Cromwell to Usb" means that you are doing only non-coding updates most of all, but turns out commit touches more than just xml build system integration.
But, *why* you changed variable name, in struct even(!!!!), interface to pinterface? You understand, and I already told you, it's Linux's source code, and it will just add more conflicts when doing 2.5->2.6 upgrade.
Please, in future, submit this kind of patches to Linux.
Though I thank you for the changes you have done to other files, xml files, etc.
WBR,
Aleksey Bragin.
Hello, ReactOS team.
I translated resources in /lib/mpr/ on Russian, and I tried to check
controls position in IDD_PROXYDLG dialog in MSVC resource visual editor.
I detected that some controls overlapped even in original MPR_EN.RC (and
in ALL mpr_**.rc translations). Who can confirm or deny my opinion on
working system?
WBR,
DarkHobbit
Hi,
this changes breaks compiling for me.
- Hartrmut:
M:\Sandbox\ros_work\reactos>_make -f makefile.up.mak
gcc -c subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c -o
.\up\obj-i386\subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.o -Isubsys\win32k\.
-Isubsys\win32k\include -Intoskrnl\include -Ilib\freetype\include
-DUNICODE -D__USE_W32API -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x0501 -DWINVER=0x600 -D_WIN32K_
-Iinclude -Iw32api\include -Iw32api\include\ddk -D_M_IX86 -DDBG -Wall
-Os -Wno-strict-aliasing -ftracer -momit-leaf-frame -pointer
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g -pipe -D__NTDRIVER__ -D_SEH_NO_NATIVE_NLG
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c: In function `DIB_32BPP_HLine':
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:48: warning: implicit declaration of
function `memset4'
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c: In function `DIB_32BPP_BitBlt':
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:311: error: `ROP4_BLACKNESS' undeclared
(first use in this function)
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:311: error: (Each undeclared identifier is
reported only once
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:311: error: for each function it appears in.)
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:335: error: syntax error before "memset4"
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:348: error: `ROP4_WHITENESS' undeclared
(first use in this function)
subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.c:354: error: syntax error before "if"
_make: *** [.\up\obj-i386\subsys\win32k\dib\dib32bpp.o] Error 1
greatlrd(a)svn.reactos.com wrote:
>lite Optimze only for dib32bpp.c
>thanks Blight for the inline asm for hline
>bitblt have got optimze for fill black and white color
>only. more will come
>
>
>
>Updated files:
>trunk/reactos/subsys/win32k/dib/dib.h
>trunk/reactos/subsys/win32k/dib/dib32bpp.c
>
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Hello, Reactos Team
I tried to install some latest versions of ReactOS on VmWare (ver.
4.0/linux). The next problem was detected ONLY on my build from current
SVN sources (I also compiled 0.2.6-REL sources - it works correctly!).
Mouse cursor (PS/2 mouse) does not move on entire screen. Instead of it
it constantly nestles on the bottom edge of the screen.
On ros-dev archives I have read through, that the driver psaux.sys has
been removed from ReactOS sources. Perhaps, my problem is connected
with it?
WBR,
Mikhail
Hi,
is it possible to reset the variable compilerflag within a special
directory like freeldr? It seems that freeldr doesn't work if it was
compiled with global optimisation enabled.
- Hartmut
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:42:34 +0200 (MEST)
From: "Klemens Friedl" <klemens_friedl(a)gmx.net>
Subject: [ros-dev] New ReactOS homepage design
suggestion
To: Ros-dev(a)reactos.com, Ros-web(a)reactos.com
Message-ID: <23301.1117651354(a)www32.gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
New ReactOS homepage design suggestion:
I created a new ros hp design today. What's your
opinion about the
design?
-> http://frik85.fr.funpic.de/ros_newhp/
Klemens Friedl <frik85>
PS: Maybe we can use it (or parts of it).
-----------------------------------------
I, as a user, like it, but:
1) BIGER FONTS!
2) Add a expandable list so people can select
language, a good thing once translations are ready.
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New ReactOS homepage design suggestion:
I created a new ros hp design today. What's your opinion about the design?
-> http://frik85.fr.funpic.de/ros_newhp/
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PS: Maybe we can use it (or parts of it).
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Hi Eric,
ekohl(a)svn.reactos.com wrote:
> Build the UNICODE version of the eventlog service.
>
>
> Updated files:
> trunk/reactos/services/eventlog/eventlog.xml
>
[CC] services/eventlog/eventlog.c
services/eventlog/eventlog.c:30:1: "UNICODE" redefined
<command line>:1:1: this is the location of the previous definition
make: *** [obj-i386/services/eventlog/eventlog.o] Error 1
Don't forget to comment out the defines in eventlog.c and logport.c
Thanks,
James
greatlrd(a)svn.reactos.com wrote:
>small optimze for StretchBlt
>Thanks Alex for the idea with neg for statement
>
>
Hey I gave you more then just the neg idea :P
don't take that too seriously =).
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu
Hi Roger
Thanks for the feedback!
We release a LiveCD ISO, which you can burn to a CD and use to try out
the OS. If you're worried about data integrity, you can also try
ReactOS in an emulator (QEmu is recommended; see reactos.com for more
details).
Regards
Jason
On 5/31/05, Roger M. <dodge727(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to say I think the ReactOS project is an excellent idea and I
> am glad to see the progress you have made.
>
> I tried Linux. Yes, you can they have good apps for free, but many times
> not the choice or quality of Windows applications [ones I would pay for
> anyway].. And with Linux finding drivers and harware ftxes is still a
> problem. I am staying with Windows.
>
> I think your aproach is right on, the Windows system/GUI has a lot of things
> I really missed on Linux -the Task Manager, The Device manager, etc.
>
> P.S. Any plans for a bootable ReactOS disk? It would be a nice way to see
> the OS
Hi,
I would like it if makefile.auto is stored in ROS_OUTPUT and if I can
specify the name of config.xml. This makes it easier to rebuild the mp
and up build frome the same source after a little modification.
- Hartmut
Hi Hartmut,
I still have 3 patches left for the OB Manager in order to support Parse
Routines so that the Registry/File APIs can be fixed, but I know that my
last patch changed a lot of things and caused some problems... are they
all fixed by now?
I remember that processes weren't being terminated anymore, and you also
told me there were some leaks... I'm not sure if I caused them or not,
so I'm asking if anythign my patch could've harmed was fixed...
So I can break everything again with my next patch! (Just kidding).
PS: I'll take a look at the BSOD code and see why it's not working
anymore...
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu