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Re: [ros-svn] [hbirr] 13102: - Set the limit of the user mode code/data segment back to 4GB.
by Alex Ionescu 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

hbirr(a)svn.reactos.com wrote: >- Set the limit of the user mode code/data segment back to 4GB. > > > >Updated files: >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/gdt.c > > > Thanks! Do you know however if any of ROS Kernel depends on the old GDT? There are two weird issues with SYSEXIT: 1) GvG reported that FPU is broken 2) Explorer now crashes in shlwapi when clicking on a disk. Best regards, Alex Ionescu

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RE: [hbirr] 13125: - Fixed the disabling of interrupts on thestack before sysexit.
by Ge van Geldorp 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

> From: hbirr(a)svn.reactos.com > > - Fixed the disabling of interrupts on the stack before sysexit. Only good news left: no more fpu crashes. All your base now belong to Hartmut! Gé van Geldorp.

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NtFlushVirtualMemory
by Steven Edwards 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Hi, Can someone have a look at implementing this? I am having good progress getting IE and Office 2k going but this function is marked as unimplemented and the installs will hang there. I could try to stub it out but if someone knows what needs to be implemented I would much rather it be done right rather than just another stub. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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RE: [ros-dev] 13090: SYSENTER support, INT2E Optimization
by Ge van Geldorp 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

The good and the bad news continues... The good news is that Hartmut's change fixed the VMware 4.0.5 problem I had and also fixes some of the floating point problems. The bad news is that it doesn't fix all the fpu problems, I still see a usermode crash in rosperf, always near a fp instruction. Gé van Geldorp.

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foo.exe.local override support
by Steven Edwards 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

anyone know what it would take to add foo.exe.local override support? If this was working IE5/6 could get to the install screen. It tries to use the advpack.dll that it ships with during the install and of course it fails because it loads ours. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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RE: 13090: new Syscall Table/Stub generator
by Ge van Geldorp 17 Jan '05

17 Jan '05

> From: ion(a)svn.reactos.com > > Added files: > trunk/reactos/tools/nci/ncitool.c I need to add "#include <malloc.h>" to get ncitool.c to compile on Windows. Adding it doesn't seem to harm Linux compilation. Gé van Geldorp.

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Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 13090: SYSENTER support, INT2E Optimization, new Syscall Table/Stub generator and svn:ignore fixes. Please read associated Mailing List Post.
by Hartmut Birr 17 Jan '05

17 Jan '05

ion(a)svn.reactos.com schrieb: >SYSENTER support, INT2E Optimization, new Syscall Table/Stub generator and svn:ignore fixes. Please read associated Mailing List Post. > > >Updated files: >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/gdt.c > > *Modified: trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/gdt.c* --- trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/gdt.c 2005-01-17 01:30:26 UTC (rev 13089) +++ trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/gdt.c 2005-01-17 07:10:34 UTC (rev 13090) @@ -40,10 +40,10 @@ 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, /* Null */ 0xffff, 0x0, 0x9a00, 0xcf, /* Kernel CS */ 0xffff, 0x0, 0x9200, 0xcf, /* Kernel DS */ - 0x0, 0x0, 0xfa00, 0xcc, /* User CS */ - 0x0, 0x0, 0xf200, 0xcc, /* User DS */ + 0x0, 0x0, 0xfa00, 0xcf, /* User CS */ + 0x0, 0x0, 0xf200, 0xcf, /* User DS */ 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, /* TSS */ - 0x1000, 0x0000, 0x9200, 0xff00, /* PCR */ + 0x1000, 0x0000, 0x9200, 0xffc0, /* PCR */ 0x1000, 0x0, 0xf200, 0x0, /* TEB */ 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, /* Reserved */ 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, /* LDT */ This changes expand the user mode data/code segment to 4GB. This is wrong. If I change it back to the correct limit, the sysenter support doesn't work. Ros does crash within the first application (smss). See the debug output. - Hartmut ... DriverBase for \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\msfs.sys: dd2fa000 DriverBase for \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\npfs.sys: dd319000 KeBugCheckWithTf at ke/catch.c:193 Bug detected (code 1e param 0 0 0 0) KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED General Protection Exception: 13(0) Processor: 0 CS:EIP 8:c0003829 <ntoskrnl.exe: 3829 (D:\DOKUME~1\hb\LOKALE~1\Temp/ccG6aaaa.s:33 (_KiSystemService))> cr2 7ffde000 cr3 158dc000 Proc: c06a6598 Pid: 2 <smss.exe> Thrd: c06abca0 Tid: 18 DS 23 ES 23 FS 3b GS 23 EAX: 00000000 EBX: 00000000 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00000000 EBP: 00000000 ESI: 00000000 ESP: dd34cd58 EDI: 00000000 EFLAGS: 00210202 kESP dd34cd58 kernel stack base dd34a000 Frames: ke/main.c:1043 0xc0003829 -> syscall.S line 270 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Build announcements
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 17 Jan '05

17 Jan '05

With the question continually arising regarding the binutils issue, would it not be an idea to have an build announcement section on the site where notes can be placed for all to see. A lot of people don't use IRC or read the mailing list, so it might also be useful to keep people updated with the happenings in SVN too. e.g. when accept was committed, current status of USB, etc. Gedi ************************************************************************ The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)exideuk.co.uk <mailto:postmaster@exideuk.co.uk> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com

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Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 13090: SYSENTER support, INT2E Optimization, new Syscall Table/Stub generator and svn:ignore fixes. Please read associated Mailing List Post.
by Alex Ionescu 17 Jan '05

17 Jan '05

ion(a)svn.reactos.com wrote: >SYSENTER support, INT2E Optimization, new Syscall Table/Stub generator and svn:ignore fixes. Please read associated Mailing List Post. > > >Added files: >trunk/reactos/tools/nci/ >trunk/reactos/tools/nci/makefile >trunk/reactos/tools/nci/ncitool.c >trunk/reactos/tools/nci/sysfuncs.lst >trunk/reactos/tools/nci/w32ksvc.db > >Updated files: >trunk/reactos/Makefile >trunk/reactos/config >trunk/reactos/include/napi/shared_data.h >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/Makefile >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/i386/ke.h >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/i386/ps.h >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/bthread.S >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/exp.c >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/gdt.c >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/kernel.c >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/stkswitch.S >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/syscall.S >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/i386/usercall.c >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/kthread.c >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ke/process.c >trunk/reactos/ntoskrnl/ps/i386/continue.c >trunk/reactos/subsys/system/vmwinst/vmwinst.c > >Deleted files: >trunk/reactos/iface/ > > > First and foremost, I would really like to thank all the people behind the scenes of this patch; Filip Navara, for the initial implementation and thoughts, and his consistent help, Art Yerkes for his invaluable testing, and everyone else who lent a hand (too many people to list here). This patch improves by around 15-20% (tested but not scientific) the speed of ReactOS on all hardware and virtual machines. Furthermore, it improves speed by over 50% (tested but not scientific) on hardware supporting the SYSENTER/SYSEXIT call pair. On VMWare however, due to causes still under investigation, SYSENTER/SYSEXIT must be disabled, or else there is a 3X slowdown. Vmwinst takes care of writing the Windows-compatible Value in the Registry, and it is read before choosing which kind of call to execute. This means that vmware is able to take advantage of the ~20% speedup, but not of all the full capability of this patch. It also combines the previous iface tools into a single, much more dynamic and small utility, which I called NCITool (Native Call Interface Tool). Although it is almost final, I still have to set-up the macros for portability and msvc compatibility, so this is a known issue (note however that the previous version suffered from the same incompatibilies). I will fix it during the week. I would like to thank Emanuelle and KJK::Hyperion for the original tool, and most of the parsing code has remained intact, apart from some code-duplication removal and simplification. The following two issues remain in this patch, which I will look at this week as well: 1) SMP. I have not tested SYSENTER on an SMP machine, and I believe that the MSRs must be written on other CPUs as well, perhaps using an IPI? 2) Pentium Pro. It erronously reports the SEP flag but does not support SYSENTER. Code must be added at the related FIXME in order to check for this. I have, along with others, tested this patch for more then a week now, and I have found no visible problems, apart from the VMWare weirdness. If any problems are noticed due to it, please post accordingly and I will have a look at it. Best regards, Alex Ionescu

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Re: [ros-svn] [gvg] 13073: Implement LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag
by Thomas Weidenmueller 16 Jan '05

16 Jan '05

gvg(a)svn.reactos.com wrote: >Implement LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag > > > Typecasting PVOID to ULONG isn't portable...ULONG_PTR is supposed to be used. Also BOOLEAN should be prefered over BOOL for internal stuff. Best Regards Thomas

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Data types: compatibility and porting
by Emanuele Aliberti 15 Jan '05

15 Jan '05

Reading the forum, it seems that porting ROS to 64-bit (x86-64) is the most wanted target. Should we begin using (and converting existing code) the new data types MS defined for Win64, to make easy that one and any other future porting effort? Emanuele See also: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winprog/wi… http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win6…

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usb - UHCI, OHCI and EHCI implementations
by Ryan O'Connor 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

Hi, This is Polonium from the irc channel (although I’m not in there all the time) Just trying to gather what’s happening with USB support, more specifically the host controller interfaces that are required to lie below the usb device drivers. Is there anyone currently working on this? If not, are there any programmers who would like to solely focus on implementing, for example, a universal host controller interface for ReactOS. While I do not know much about the topic myself, with ample resources and team members I may be able to make a good start. Anyone else interested? The specifications for the interfaces can be found on the Intel website. Regards Ryan O’Connor --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.808 / Virus Database: 550 - Release Date: 12/8/2004

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Re: [ros-svn] [arty] 13014: Added forgotten .h ext2lib.h
by James Tabor 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

WOW! arty(a)svn.reactos.com wrote: > Added forgotten .h ext2lib.h > > > > Added files: > branches/ext2/reactos/include/fslib/ext2lib.h > Does this mean we have ext2 support? James

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[PATCH] minor fix for RtlStoreUlong()
by d_layer 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

Hi, Attached patch should fix some problems of RtlStoreUlong(). 1) store SECONDBYTE of the value correctly. 2) store a ULONG value but not a ULONG_PTR value. There is RtlStoreUlongPtr() which stores a ULONG_PTR value. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/kmarch/hh/kmarch/k109_2dd28516-e8e4… -- d_layer

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Re:Re: [ros-dev] Who want to help a newbie?
by yang 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

Thank you for your help.I will ask your question at there. regards, yang > > Hi yang, > come to irc channel, #reactos, there are many people, and some will > definately answer your question. When I'm online, I can try to help you > also. > > > With the best regards, > Aleksey Bragin (aka "Fireball" on irc). >

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Re:Re: [ros-dev] Who want to help a newbie?
by yang 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

> Probably you need to practice C a little more ;-) Thank you very much,I will try my best to practice. > > I think this depends a lot on which part of the code you want to read. If you > are trying to understand parts of NTOSKRNL it will be helpful to read at > least the thing about memory management in the IA32 manual. On the other side > if you are looking at our Mesa3D copy, you should probably be good at maths. Now I'm studing about 80x86 assembly. Do you think it work? > > > HTH, > blight regards, yang

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Who want to help a newbie?
by yang 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

Hello everyone! I am a newbie, now I am a sophomore. I learn the C programming language last year. And one month ago I found this project, and begin to read the source code last three week. But I found there are to many thing that doesn't mention in my book. I can't undertand the source code. Who want to tell me what I had to study and answer some question as a teacher even if some question may be stupid. Thanks to help a chinese open source software fan. Regards, yang

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Janitorial Task - Get rid of TAG_NONE
by Steven Edwards 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

Hi, Royce suggested that we need to get rid of TAG_NONE and I remeber EA posting a list of tags a while back so maybe its a good time to look at the issue again. We have quite a few cases where ExAllocatePool() and ExAllocatePoolWithQuota() is calling ExAllocatePagedPoolWithTag ( TAG_NONE ). I propose that we change the headers for these two functions to throw a compile error if we try to use them internally. We would still keep it implemented to support third party drivers but this way it will force developers to not use them. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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RE: [ros-svn] [gdalsnes] 12942: -move alert stuff into own file
by Ge van Geldorp 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

> From: gdalsnes(a)svn.reactos.com > > -move alert stuff into own file > -only use Thread->Alerted[0]. Alerted[1] is not used. > -misc Building with DBG := 1 I get a compile-time error on ntoskrnl/ps/thread.c line 480: ASSERT(Thread->WaitBlockList == NULL); ps/thread.c: In function `PsUnblockThread': ps/thread.c:480: error: structure has no member named `WaitBlockList' Gé van Geldorp.

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Creative SB! Live audio card - driver loading problem
by Gge 11 Jan '05

11 Jan '05

I have setup the registry for the Audio card "Creative SB! Live " with the audio driver "kx.sys" from www.kxproject.com The driver starts to load but fails to initialize the SB card with the following debug messages Any idea ? Is it possible to implement the function "_audddrvm" in ntoskrnl ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- DriverBase for \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kx.sys: dce72000 DriverBase for \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\portcls.sys: dcf2f000 (ldr/loader.c:1476) LdrPEGetExportByName(): failed to find _aulldvrm (ldr/loader.c:1561) Failed to import _aulldvrm from ntoskrnl.exe (ldr/loader.c:373) Could not process module (ldr/loader.c:319) Could not open module file: \SystemRoot\system32\portcls.sys (ldr/loader.c:1323) Unknown import module: portcls.sys (Status c0000034) (ldr/loader.c:373) Could not process module (io/pnpmgr.c:1518) Initialization of service emu10kx failed (Status c0000034) (io/pnpmgr.c:1452) IopActionInitChildServices(ccc26b60, ccc48ef8, 0) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Best regards Gerard

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Add French translation for timedate.cpl
by Sylvain Petreolle 10 Jan '05

10 Jan '05

Add French translation for timedate.cpl Please find patch attched. ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users.sourceforge.net) humans are like computers, yesterday the BIOS was all - today its just a word

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ROS crashes after splash screen
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 10 Jan '05

10 Jan '05

When installing ROS (0.2.5 & svn) on an old PII machine I have (real hardware), the initial install goes smoothly, machine reboots, splash screen flashes up and then it hangs on the blue screen just before configuration. Viewing in debug mode, I get masses of text streaming up the screen, much to fast to read. After around 10 seconds or so the machine reboots. I've attached the debug log in the hope someone can figure out what's happening. (you can see what I mean by the 'masses of text') There seems to be quite a few strange messages in there. I have had older versions of 0.2.4 installed on this machine before. Thanks, Gedi ************************************************************************ The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)exideuk.co.uk <mailto:postmaster@exideuk.co.uk> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com

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Re: [ros-svn] [frik85] 12909: 8 german language files (update)
by Steven Edwards 09 Jan '05

09 Jan '05

--- frik85(a)svn.reactos.com wrote: > trunk/reactos/lib/shell32/shell32_De.rc > trunk/reactos/lib/winmm/winmm_De.rc > trunk/reactos/subsys/system/taskmgr/De.rc Please send these changes to wine-patches as well so they wont get lost on the next merge. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

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[ros-dev] Thankyou everybody, but still i dont manage to compile it.
by Lucio Diaz 09 Jan '05

09 Jan '05

--- ros-dev-request(a)reactos.com escribió: > Send Ros-dev mailing list submissions to > ros-dev(a)reactos.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > ros-dev-request(a)reactos.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ros-dev-owner(a)reactos.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ros-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Anyone to help a newbie? (Anich Gregor) > 2. RE: Application Regression (vim.exe) (Ge van > Geldorp) > 3. tickcount (David Kredba) > 4. RE: [ros-svn] [hyperion] 12838: honor > __USE_W32API > (Ge van Geldorp) > 5. Creative SB Live audio card : Driver loading > fails (Gge) > 6. Re: Application Regression (vim.exe) > (WaxDragon) > 7. Wine I/O Manager for Kernel Services (Brad > DeMorrow) > 8. /nt Removal Patch (Alex Ionescu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:14:28 +0100 > From: Anich Gregor <blight(a)blight.eu.org> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Anyone to help a newbie? > To: ros-dev(a)reactos.com > Message-ID: > <200501051514.28630.blight(a)blight.eu.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 00:44, Lucio Diaz > wrote: > > I installed the SVN and could make it work, i > > downloaded MinGW-3.1.0-1.exe ,gcc-core 3.3.3 , > gcc-g++ > > 3.3.3 and nasm-0.98-win32.zip Installed them and > set > > the path. > > > > > > i tried to build ReactOs (at the reactos folder) > with > > make (I did previously a make clean) > > > > And i get the following error: > > > > Compiling arch/i386/i386rt > > l > > cc1.exe: unrecognized option > > `-fno-zero-initialized-in-bss' > > make[2]: *** [arch/i386/i386rtl.o] Error 1 > > make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 > > make: *** [freeldr] Error 2 > > > > C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\trunk\reactos> > > What's the output of gcc -dumpversion? Are you sure > you have 3.3.3 installed? > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Nevertheless i try to make install and get the > > following error: > > > > make[1]: *** No rule to make target > > `../../dk/w32/lib/libvfatlib.a', needed by ` > > fmifs.nostrip.dll'. Stop. > > make: *** [fmifs_install] Error 2 > > > > C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\trunk\reactos> > > > > This happend because "make install" doesnt do the > same as "make && make > install" - you have to "make" once for things like > dk/w32/lib/libvfatlib.a to > be built. > > > > > I dont know what i am making wrong, any idea? > > > > > > Thanks in advance and my best wishes for 2005. > > - blight > > ------------------------------ Thankyou for your help, i was using "make", geting the error and then trying to "make install" (of course getting another error). Once i did -dumpversion i realized i had the version 3.2.3 (even if the ziped files stated 3.3.3 a typo i supouse) so i updated to 3.4.2 Again i tried "make"... and then i ran out of memory somewere with rosrtl I set the virtual memory up to 2Gigas... Then i went further and got an error about not finding cc1 where it belongs...so i put (and all the files in that folder)it where gcc was searching for them. Now i can avance further, but even making a "make clean" and going with "make" again i get stuck with cc1.exe Now gcc fings it, but it gives an error about not understanding some comand or argument: rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.create.d rosrtl: [DEPENDS] misc/.intrlck.d gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\MinGW\bin\ ..\libexec\gcc\mingw32\3.4.2\cc1.exe': Invalid argument rosrtl: [DEPENDS] misc/.devmode.d gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\MinGW\bin\ ..\libexec\gcc\mingw32\3.4.2\cc1.exe': Invalid argument rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/i386/.context.d gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\MinGW\bin\ ..\libexec\gcc\mingw32\3.4.2\cc1.exe': Invalid argument rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.linearstack.d gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\MinGW\bin\ ..\libexec\gcc\mingw32\3.4.2\cc1.exe': Invalid argument rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.priv.d rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.stack.d rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.exit.d rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.create.d gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\MinGW\bin\ ..\libexec\gcc\mingw32\3.4.2\cc1.exe': Invalid argument rosrtl: [DEPENDS] thread/.priv.d gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `C:\Internet\ReactOS\Subersion\MinGW\bin\ ..\libexec\gcc\mingw32\3.4.2\cc1.exe': Invalid argument El sistema no puede ejecutar el programa especificado. make[1]: *** [thread/.priv.d] Error 255 make: *** [rosrtl] Error 2 The cc1.exe states its version is 3.4.2.I have also updated the SVN tree a few times with the same problem.I dont know where is the problem, please help, i cant imagine what i am doing wrong. Thanks all for your help and good luck. ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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RE: [ros-svn] [gvg] 12895: Include COFF symbols in our .sym files
by Ge van Geldorp 09 Jan '05

09 Jan '05

> From: gvg(a)svn.reactos.com > > Include COFF symbols in our .sym files Since this changes the layout of the .sym files (header becomes bigger) this will unfortunately require a clean make if you're using .sym files. Gé van Geldorp.

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