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Package Manager license
by Saveliy Tretiakov 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

I can't find any license statement in packmgr sources. Can authors add it into comments please?

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Re: Ros-dev Digest, Vol 8, Issue 17
by Lucio Diaz 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

I can imagine the News: BIG CORPORATION SUES A GROUP OF COLLEGES FOR DEVELOPING A NEW WINDOWS. MICROSOFT THREATENS A LITTLE NON PROFIT PROYECT! MICROSOFT AGAINST LIBRE SOFTWARE! This has the chance to make microsoft more damage than you think they can do to ReactOS, unless they feel really threatened i doubt there will be any microsoft legal atack unless you use clearly microsoft code in the near or intermediate time. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steven Edwards <steven_ed4153(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS Foundation 501c3 > Status - Approved > To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.com> > Message-ID: > <20050407203119.68427.qmail(a)web21121.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi James, > > --- James Tabor > <jimtabor(a)adsl-64-217-116-74.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net> > wrote: > > Paying developers? Hum? > > > > I don't want to be the bad guy here, but this > could push people away from the project. It would > > be > > like going back to five years ago when ROS had no > GUI just a command console. Everyone will wait > > for five or so developers to fix things, and trust > me it does happen that way in the real world. > > The back log will kick their asses. > > See the other thread. I don't think paying > developers as full time workers is a good idea. I > think > Contracts or bounties on certain projects are. > > > Now I have to ask, where does the money come from? > If the ORG has no money, I guess it should > > produce a competing distribution CD. This could > make M$ happy, so M$ would have a target to > > sue at. Also everyone on the board would become a > target as well. > > I was wrong in the other email. I forgot we have $25 > in the general fund atm which was raised at > LinuxWorld. I expect we can make quite a bit selling > CDs, T-Shirts, Etc, if we want as well as > just accepting donations. As for the fear of > lawsuit, the idea behind the foundation was that it > was better the foundation get sued and try to have > some cash for legal defence rather than some > poor developer in school. Everybody here knows the > risk from Microsoft.... > > Thanks > Steven > ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Fundation income
by Lucio Diaz 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

Someway i can not avoid thinking this looks like the milk jug tale, you have 0 income at the moment, and is much improbable you will get a stable income till the OS is quite more mature, so why worry with payings? If you get some money, probably not much at the moment, you could use for hardware upgrades in the server if needed, hosting and expo attendance (and in the last point i would encourage people to share resources as places to stay where the expo takes place if someone lives there, attendance of people near to that world area). I really doubt that 30$ bounty will atract new developers to implement a feature. Also i have to point you need a way to get that income, best from private donations, i sugest implementing two ways: - Send a check or paper money to a Fisical Mail Direction. - Using PayPal and credicards. -Direct bank transference. >From the three i would use the first :) ...i am quite paranoid with credit cards and the transference expenses would cost more than the transference. Best regards, Lucio Diaz. PD: If someday you want to make a ReactOS conference in a paradise island, e-mail me... ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS Foundation 501c3 Status - Approved
by Steven Edwards 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

--- Jonathan Wilson <jonwil(a)tpgi.com.au> wrote: > The way to avoid being sued by microsoft (or at least sucessfully sued) is > not to violate microsoft Copyrights, Trademarks or Patents. (we have to be > especially carefull what with large chunks of windows out there in the form > of the leaked NT4 and 2000 source dumps) > And not to use any information obtained from microsoft under NDA. Try writting a hello world program in any sort of modern language and you might violate a patent. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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livecd + real hw = more crashing
by Royce Mitchell III 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

I don't see how this is even possible considering that IntCreateDevice sets various members of DriverObject... any ideas? Assertion DriverObject failed at io/irp.c:198 Frames: ntoskrnl: io/irp.c:200 IofCallDriver win32k: eng/device.c:62 EngDeviceIoControl framebuf.dll: surface.c:49 DrvEnableSurface win32k: objects/dc.c:663 IntCreatePrimarySurface win32k: ntuser/winsta.c:351 IntInitializeDesktopGraphics win32k: ntuser/guicheck.c:57 AddGuiApp win32k: ntuser/guicheck.c:92 IntGraphicsCheck win32k: objects/dc.c:748 IntGdiCreateDC win32k: ntuser/windc.c:135 DceAllocDCE win32k: ntuser/windc.c:494 NtUserGetDCEx win32k: ntuser/windc.c:115 NtUserGetDC ntoskrnl: KiSystemService user32: windows/dc.c:44 GetDC()

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AOL Instant Messenger on ReactOS
by Nate DeSimone 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

Hi all, Just thought I would post a few screens. The installer for AIM runs up until the point that it actually copies files, at which point it gracefully crashes and exits. Probably not too much more work to get it working :-) . Regards, Nate DeSimone

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Busted mingw-gcc 3.4.2
by Phillip Susi 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

I downloaded the mingw gcc 3.4.2 from mingw.org and it seems that it's specs/linker script is messed up. By default g++ should link to libstdc++.a shouldn't it? Well this thing isn't. Now I don't really understand how the gcc specs file works, but I think that is where it should be telling g++ to link to libstdc++.a, so if anyone else has any idea how that file works and might point out where I need to add the command to link in libstdc++.a, I'd appreciate it.

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ReactOS Foundation 501c3 Status - Approved
by Steven Edwards 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi, Just to let everyone know we are now approved to be a 501c3 org in the United States meaning that we can give a tax deduction for any contributions received for donations to the Foundation. I am in process of trying to get my paperwork together now to come up with a plan to move forward as I have never done this before and its been a learning process. Sorry its taken so damn long...... I would like to propose that we get something up rather quickly on foundation.reactos.org and review/amend the draft bylaws as needed as well as have our first real meeting after Jason and I have discussed off list drafting a new budget plan for the following expenses. Bounty System Retainer for Legal and Accounting Supplementation of Hosting Costs Administrative Assistant Reserve Fund Just to give you a idea I am wanting to budget whatever income we might have in the following way 80% developers/bounties 5% reserve fund (Mutual Funds, Savings, Etc) 5% legal reserve and retainer costs 5% supplement hosting and misc expenses (expos etc) 5% part-to-full time administrative assistant to help me manage paper work as I suck at it. Prior board meetings mainly consisted of me telephoning each board member upon the initial incorporation and we have not really moved forward since that time. Now that we are all nice and legal its time to hit the ground running. Currently our board of directors consists of long time developers to ReactOS and Wine Steven Edwards, Jason Filby, Alexandre Julliard, Brian Palmer and Rex Jolliff. I would like to get community feedback as part of our bylaw amending process on the current status of the board and when/if we should hold elections and restructure. Also from people that agreed to be on the board. Do you still want to do it? Does anyone else? Etc.... Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS Foundation 501c3 Status - Approved
by Steven Edwards 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi, --- ea <ea(a)iol.it> wrote: > first of all, thank you for all the time you spent on the Foundation thing. > This is and has always been a big issue (or big fear?): how is this > handled on the Wine side? The only rational reason for a lawsuit is > Microsft suspects ROS has some stolen code in it that belongs to them > (see SCO versus Linux). We must therefore be sure our code is clean. > There could be some funds for paying a code analysis performed by a > third party (of course we can not ask a MS coder nor a ROS coder to look > at their code and at ours and say if they differ). Well so far one thing that has helped is the fact that there is no central authority that owns the code. Jason and I discussed this when we wanted to create the foundation and it was decided that if someone wants to turn code over to the foundation they can however in any case we will work to provide legal defence. Another thing Wine and ReactOS has going for them is the new Software Freedom law center http://www.softwarefreedom.org/. They are helping out with the Wine project so we get some level of protection from the amount of code we share with Wine. The real issue comes in on the kernel and driver side. I need to email them and discuss a working relationship with the foundation. That is soon on my todo list. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS Foundation 501c3 Status - Approved
by Steven Edwards 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi James, --- James Tabor <jimtabor(a)adsl-64-217-116-74.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net> wrote: > Paying developers? Hum? > > I don't want to be the bad guy here, but this could push people away from the project. It would > be > like going back to five years ago when ROS had no GUI just a command console. Everyone will wait > for five or so developers to fix things, and trust me it does happen that way in the real world. > The back log will kick their asses. See the other thread. I don't think paying developers as full time workers is a good idea. I think Contracts or bounties on certain projects are. > Now I have to ask, where does the money come from? If the ORG has no money, I guess it should > produce a competing distribution CD. This could make M$ happy, so M$ would have a target to > sue at. Also everyone on the board would become a target as well. I was wrong in the other email. I forgot we have $25 in the general fund atm which was raised at LinuxWorld. I expect we can make quite a bit selling CDs, T-Shirts, Etc, if we want as well as just accepting donations. As for the fear of lawsuit, the idea behind the foundation was that it was better the foundation get sued and try to have some cash for legal defence rather than some poor developer in school. Everybody here knows the risk from Microsoft.... Thanks Steven __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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