Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [ekohl] 61145: [FASTFAT] FsdGetFsVolumeInformation: Return volume creation time.

[Alexander Andrejevic]

I suppose it depends on how you interpret it.
To me, "...extend only to the software or derivative works that you create that run
on a Microsoft Windows operating system product" sounds like the program must run
on Windows exclusively. It's not "... that you create to run ...", but
"... that you
create that run ...".

Regards,
Alexander

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:55:08PM +0100, David Quintana (gigaherz) wrote:
>   I do not agree on the "unless it's on
> Microsoft Windows" part. The
>  license grants apply if it is "created to run directly" on windows,
>  which I understand as "it can run anywhere else, also, just as long as
>  it runs in windows without an intermediary".
>  
>  On 29 November 2013 17:51, Alexander Andrejevic
>  <theflash(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> >   Fastfat is located inside its own binary, so this
> > is considered "mere aggregation", and
> >  that is not the problem. (See
> > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation).
> >  The problem is that you don't even have a license to use it or distribute it, unless
> > it's
> >  on Microsoft Windows.
> >  Then again, I'm not a lawyer either and I could be wrong too. It would be great if
> > someone
> >  who knows a lot about licenses explained this.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Alexander
> >
> >  On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:35:21PM +0100, David Quintana (gigaherz) wrote:
> > >   The exact words of the license, as seen at
> > >  http://www.ohloh.net/licenses/mslpl (I couldn't find a better link for
> > >  it), are:
> > >
> > >  "4. (F) Platform Limitation- The licenses granted in sections 2(A) &
> > >  2(B) extend only to the software or derivative works that you create
> > >  that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product."
> > >
> > >  Excluding that term, the rest of the license is mostly a
> > >  differently-worded BSD license. If it only needs to be tested in
> > >  windows to ensure that it works there, then there should be absolutely
> > >  no problem including it in ReactOS, as long as the terms don't
> > >  conflict with the other licenses' terms. And GPL with the ReactOS
> > >  exception, as far as I can tell, allows it. I'm not a lawyer, though,
> > >  so I could be wrong.
> > >
> > >  On 29 November 2013 16:17, Alexander Andrejevic
> > >  <theflash(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> > > >   Hi Ged,
> > > >
> > > >  Are you sure that we can use software released under the MS-LPL? It has a rather weird
> > > >  limitation in section 4, which says that you can only use it on a "Microsoft Windows
> > > > operating system product".
> > > >  Since ReactOS is not Windows, that would mean we can't use it.
> > > >  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> > > >
> > > >  Regards,
> > > >  Alexander
> > > >
> > > >  On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 02:58:51PM -0000, Ged Murphy wrote:
> > > > > Hi Eric,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this has been discussed before, but should we not just bite the bullet and
> > > > replace this driver with the Microsoft driver.
> > > > > The MS_LPL license allows it to be used in reactos, and it would certainly get rid of
> > > > any unknowns  and give us a reliable filesystem to work from.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowshardware/fastfat-File-System-Driver-1…
> > > > >
> > > > > Ged.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ros-diffs-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> > > > Of ekohl(a)svn.reactos.org
> > > > > Sent: 29 November 2013 14:06
> > > > > To: ros-diffs(a)reactos.org
> > > > > Subject: [ros-diffs] [ekohl] 61145: [FASTFAT] FsdGetFsVolumeInformation: Return
> > > > volume creation time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Author: ekohl
> > > > > Date: Fri Nov 29 14:05:43 2013
> > > > > New Revision: 61145
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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