Re: [ros-dev] Arwinss architecture

[Alex Ionescu]

What you guys need is some way to convince the ARM Ninjas that rewriting the
memory manager won't make the ARM port easier -- but that rewriting
win32k/gdi32/user32 will!
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Samuel serapion <samdwise51(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

>   I love you.
>
>
>  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Timo Kreuzer <timo.kreuzer(a)web.de>wrote;wrote:
>
> >   King InuYasha schrieb:
> > >   Arwinss resembles the NT3/Vista/7 architecture
> > > for Win32k, while the
> > >  implementation that some people are saying is "right" is more in line 
> > with
> > >   the NT4-WinXP. 
> >  You obviously have no clue
> > what you're talking about.
> >  arwinss has no more in common with NT3 or Vista/7 than with NT4/XP/2003
> >  architecture.
> >  Also Vista/Win7 architecture is following XP/2003 architecture much more
> >  than NT3.
> >
> > >   In the strictest sense of the definition, both
> > > arwinss and
> > >  the current default implementation styles are "correct." Both
> > >  implementations work and allow Windows NT drivers to work with it, so 
> >  that's
> > >   not the problem. It also adds in RDP-esque
> > > support through X, which is
> > >  pretty cool too.
> > >  I guess some of these people don't like Wine code. The problem with that 
> >  is
> > >   that without Wine code, ReactOS would probably
> > > take ten times as long to
> > >  actually get to a usable state. 
> >  That's just bs.
> >  The win32 subsystem has a bunch of bugs yes, but don't expect them to go
> >  away by using more wine code.
> >
> > >   Using Wine code for win32k seems to cross
> > >  some sort of line for them. I heard some of them saying the Wine code 
> >  for
> > >   win32k is "ugly." 
> >  When you talk
> > about "them" and "these people" you talk about us, don't
> >  you? It's win32k devs you talk about, right? If you can do the coding
> >  for us, ...
> >
> > >   What does ugliness have to do with it? Being able
> > > to share
> > >  more with Wine saves a lot of hard work from ReactOS devs. They can 
> >  focus
> > >   more on bringing the NT kernel up to scratch,
> > > rather than spending more 
> >  time
> > >   with the Win32k code. 
> >  And this is exactly
> > what is *not* happening. Aleksey currentlty spends
> >  his time with this win32k rewrite instead of something useful, like
> >  fixing the kernel or fixing the real win32k or fixing fat or usb or
> >  porting reactos to mips.
> >
> > >   They could even work on adding in other
> > > subsystems, if
> > >  they wanted to.
> > >  
> >  Yes everyone is free to code what he likes, it just won't lead us
> >  anywhere.
> >
> >  Sorry for sounding rude, but I just hate when people with no
> >  understanding about the topic are spreading misinformation.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >  Timo
> >
> >
> >
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