Re: [ros-dev] My attitude

[Alex Ionescu]

Steven Edwards wrote:

>  No my idea was that you should ask 
>  
I wrote "It was Steven's idea that I should post this email" in my
email.

>   I suggested mailing the list if you thought I was
> wrong.
>   
>  
I wrote "and I agreed" in my email.

>    
>
> >  "My arrogant attitude hurts this project more
> > then any amount of code or
> > patches I commit will ever help it."
> >     
> >  
> Which I later clarified to mean that long term if your attitude
> discourages people from contributing code. I do not wish to get in to
> childish debate or waste any ones time. This is my point of view, that
> yes long term it will hurt the project more. I can site examples but I
> am not wanting to beat a dead horse at this point.
>   
>  
And like we both said on IRC, it's important to know if this is 
everyone's point of view.

>    
>
> >  [ ] Alex's arrogant attitude hurts this
> > project more then his code helps
> > it. Alex should therefore leave, so that the project can stop being hurt.
> >     
> >  
>   
>
> >  [ ] Alex's arrogant attitude is annoying at
> > times but his presence in
> > this project significantly helps it grow and move towards reaching its
> > goals, and does not hurt the project.
> >     
> >  
> This is my point of view. No one else's. 
>  
The point is to find out if that's true.

>  I think long term your
> attitude is a detriment to the project, your methods are sloppy and
> you don't care how much it bothers other people. 
>  
Nobody has ever questionned my "sloppy methods" except for you, at least

not to me. Oh, Casper has complained about my huge patches, and I think 
he'll agree that even though I bitched about it a lot, I have had 
several chat sessions with him where I was explaining him the hurdles of 
splitting patches and how I was attempting to do so.

>  I mean you care about
> the project and think your development methods are helping but your
> attitude towards anyone that has tried to tell you otherwise has never
> shown it.
>  
Why have they never shown it?

>   Now if you want to ask the question correctly.
>
> Are you turned off contributing to the project by Alex's attitude
>
> [] Yes
> [] No
>
>   
>  
But that's not really the question. I don't disagree that I might've 
turned off some people to contribute, but it's their problem for not 
having communicated with me about it... I can't fix what I'm not told 
about. How many people do you think are put off by Linus Torvalds? How 
many people do you think are put off just by the fact we don't use msvc? 
How many people do you think are put off by the fact we are GPL? Why 
single me out? It doesn't make sense, and I will sleep at night knowing 
that "I have put people off" because I'm sure other devs here have done 
the same, and I know that Linus's attitude puts off hundreds of 
developers. But let's go back to what you said:

[22:23] <@sedwards> Alex_Ionescu, your ego is going to do more damage to 
the project than any amount of code you commit
[22:24] <@sedwards> the truth hurts
[22:24] <@sedwards> I am not trying to be rude but I do mean it

It's one thing to "put people off", it's another to "do more damage
then 
help".

The question isn't wether I've put people off. Please, anyone that I've 
put off, EMAIL ME. Tell me about it! I want you to work on this project 
and I will do anything it takes for us to get along.

The question remains:

<<
Do you agree with this statement:

"<@sedwards> Alex_Ionescu, your ego is going to do more damage to the 
project than any amount of code you commit"

[ ] Yes
[ ] No
>  > 
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu