Re: [ros-dev] Genesi

[James Tabor]

Hi!

WOW! p2g4Regular price: $775.00

# MicroATX mainboard  (236 mm x 172 mm), compatible with all ATX-compliant cases.
# Open Firmware .
# MV64361 Discovery II System Controller from Marvell.
# PC2100 RAM , two sockets for DDR-266 with up to 8 gigabytes total.
# AGP slot .
# PCI subsystem with three 32bit, 33MHz slots, optional Riser Card.
# IEEE1394/Firewire providing 100, 200 or 400 megabits of data bandwidth.
# Gigabit ethernet provided by the Marvell Discovery II MV64361
# 10/100 megabit ethernet using a VIA Rhine controller.
# USB subsystem giving two external connectors and one internal connector, provided by the
VIA 8231 
chipset.
# SPDIF digital audio connector.
# AC97 sound subsystem with microphone input, line in/out and headset connector, provided
by the 
Sigmatel STAC 9766 codec.
# IRDA for infra-red remote control.
# ATA100-compatible IDE support with two channels for up to four ATA devices, provided by
the VIA 
8231 chipset.
# Two PS/2 connectors for use with standard PS/2 mice and keyboards.
# Serial (RS232) port.
# Parallel (Centronics) port.
# Gameport for PC-compatible joysticks.
# Floppy drive connector.
# Two operating systems included: MorphOS , Debian GNU/Linux with Mac-on-Linux .

It does come with a Linux Debian.

Gregor Anich wrote:
>   Hi!
>  
>  Steven Edwards wrote:
>  
> >   Hi Eirc and Jason,
> >
> >  --- Eric Kohl <eric.kohl(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> >   
> >
> > >   But I have to remind you that there are _no_
> > > usable development tools
> > >  available. We will have to add little-endian PPC-PE support to GCC
> > >  and
> > >  Binutils because it was either removed (GCC) or suffers from heavy
> > >  bit-rot
> > >  (Binutils). This is not an easy task when you're neither a PPC-Guru
> > >  nor a
> > >  GCC/Binutils-Guru.
> > >     
> >
> >  Right. The only other option is to add a ELF loader to ntosknrl and
> >  ntdll and then build all of ReactOS as ELF Winelib binaries. I have
> >  looked at this quite a bit and even have a bug for it bugzilla. We have
> >  the needed tools to support a ELF build of ReactOS but we need someone
> >  to write the binary loader. I have spoken to Alexandre about it at
> >  length and Blight did some research in to this....needless to say we
> >  have not made much progress as of yet.
> >
> >  I am afriad our only hopes of porting to other platforms with PE are
> >  arm-wince-pe and sh4-pe both of which are still supported by mainly GCC
> >  for embedded development.
> >
> >  Thanks
> >  Steven
> >   
> >  
>  
>  Adding support to load (map) ELF files to ntoskrnl is not a big problem 
>  I think (I have already done this and it should work)
>  Problems which I had was that normal ELF files do not contain an 
>  optional header which we need (it contains for example the required os 
>  and subsystem version and subsystem type) - this is what wingcc can be 
>  used for I think.
>  I have also had problems with building our libraries in ELF format to 
>  link some ELF test-app against, maybe this is easier with wingcc.
>  
>  Maybe if I try again with the WINE tools I can get further... If anybody 
>  else wants to try I can send a patch for ELF support in ntoskrnl.
>  
>  -blight 
Yes post the patch.

I have a CD with MetaWare's High C/C++ PPC for dos. (cant find it ATM)
It supports ELF/DWARF. I think using ELF is way to go.
James