Re: [ros-dev] GSoC 2011 idea

[Alex Ionescu]

The minidump/dump format is well-documented and understood among those in
the security industry, so it's not a big secret.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Bryan Donlan <bdonlan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>   I believe Google's breakpad library generates
> windows minidump format dumps
>  portably (on linux, Mac etc), so that may be something to look at. Not sure
>  offhand what the license is,but it's something OSI-approved.
>   On Mar 30, 2011 6:48 AM, "Ilie Halip" <lupuroshu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >   Hey.
> >
> >  You're right, I haven't thought about generating a .dmp file manually, I
> >  guess I just took MiniDumpWriteDump for granted. A quick search for the
> >  Windows dump file format doesn't reveal much... There's also the issue 
> with
> >   symbol files (probably also not well documented),
> > which are needed to get
> >  the stack trace.
> >
> >  Hm, this raises many issues... I'll try to talk to Timo when I see him
> >  online. Thanks for the heads-up.
> >
> >  IH.
> >
> >  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Ged Murphy <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com> 
>  wrote:
> >  
> > > Hi Ilie,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree that the WER would be useful.
> > >
> > > My main concern with this is that in order to do it correctly (meaning 
>  as
> >  > per Microsoft), we would need a server
> > setting up to consume the error
> > > reports.
> > >
> > > I realise that there is much more to WER than reporting crashes back to
> > > Microsoft, but if we start to dig into what features are available, 
>  you’ll
> >  > realise that it’s a huge area.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One thing what needs addressing are usermode dumps. How do we do this?
> > > Ideally we’d like to output dumps in the same format as Windows does 
>  (dmp),
> >  > but I’m not sure if anyone has the knowledge
> > of the layout of these 
>  files.
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are keen on this as a project though, I suggest you speak to Timo 
>  in
> >  > IRC. Although he’s not a mentor, he has more
> > experience than most in 
>  raising
> >  > and catching exceptions and may be able to
> > help guide you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As for the timescale, 30 hours per week is more than enough time to be
> > > spending on a GSoC project.
> > >
> > > Your time is entirely managed by you anyway, you just need to strive to
> > > complete before the deadline.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wish you luck in whatever you choose.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ged Murphy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>  *On
> >  > Behalf Of *Ilie Halip
> > > *Sent:* 29 March 2011 08:46
> > >
> > > *To:* ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > > *Subject:* [ros-dev] GSoC 2011 idea
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > >
> > > My name is Ilie Halip, and I'm a student at the Faculty of Computer
> > > Science, in Iasi, Romania. I'd like to take part in this year's Google
> > > Summer of Code, and I was browsing the ideas page earlier.
> > >
> > > What caught my eye was the Management Console, but after some 
>  discussions
> >  > on IRC, I got very excited about another
> > thing not listed on the wiki 
>  page
> >  > for GSoC. It's about implementing support
> > for Windows Error Reporting. 
>  It's
> >  > listed at
> > http://reactos.org/wiki/Missing_ReactOS_Functionality. I 
>  think
> >  > it's doable in less than 3 months, and
> > might prove to be helpful too 
>  (the
> >  > wiki page sais that :P). I'm not sure if
> > you would accept this kind of
> > > proposal, so I'm here to ask about that. Also, I would need a mentor to 
> help
> >  > me with this project - so... would anyone be
> > willing to mentor me, if 
>  this
> >  > project would be accepted? I was also looking
> > at WMI, but I know it's 
>  huge,
> >  > and I'm not sure how much of it would be
> > required to consider such a 
>  project
> >  > successful.
> > >
> > > Also, another thing I should mention. I do have a full time job right 
>  now.
> >  > That's a reason I didn't dive into
> > anything bigger listed on the ideas 
>  page.
> >  > Even though I do have some experience writing
> > Windows drivers (I wrote a
> > > file system filter driver 2 years back), I don't think I'd be able to 
> write
> >  > an Intel HDA driver in less than 3 months.
> > But I talked to my superiors, 
>  and
> >  > they are willing to let me work part-time
> > during GSoC, so I should be 
>  able
> >  > to work for my would-be project about 30
> > hours/week. Do you think that's
> > > enough?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ilie.
> > >
> > >
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