Both you guys need to grow up. One would swear this list was occupied
with 12 year olds. Guys, this project is supposed to be 'for fun'. If
you are going to flame each other, at least take it somewhere private.
Richard
Anich Gregor wrote:
On Sunday 26 June 2005 17:09, Alex Ionescu wrote:
Anich Gregor wrote:
You are such an IDIOT!
Please don't resort to name-calling.
If i wanted to see my copyright in the file i
could add it to each file i
touch, like you do.
I was just saying that it was bad to base a new file on a old one, copying
blocks of the old one into the new one (or rewriting them - at the end one
sees its the same code with different syntax), then remove the original
authors copyright (dwelch), add his own name, svn delete the old file and
add the new file instead of moving and keeping all copytrights in the
file/history.
See, you're misrepresenting what happened in order to prove yourself
right. The new file was based on the old one as much as any OS's context
switcher is based in any other OS's. I barely even looked at the old
file when writing the code, except for your FPU code.
The new file looks like a optimized version of the old file - what you do and
how you do it looks much like the old code did it, but more efficient.
Before talking about dwelch's copyright, you
should know that I actually
talked to some developers about how much is a derivative work and how
much is new code and the differences and copyrights.
You should also know that our development guidelines RECOMMEND that if
file has been re-written (and even if it was only changing syntax,
that's pretty much a rewrite) it should be svn deleted and svn added.
Did you know we recommend gcc 3.3.3, and some other stuff which might not be
correct in all situations?
I spent a great amount of time working on that
file and I really don't
appreciate you telling me that all I did was "copy, rewrite, remove
name, add mine". It's extremly disrespectful.
Yes, it is disrespectful, but you should ask yourself why i am not more
respectful to you... i dont like your attitude.
You said
you didnt know who wrote the FPU code (after i said that i have
written it and noone can see that because of the deleted history), but you
would have had to assume that it was written by dwelch if thats the only
name in the file (and add his name to the new file) or simply keep the
history of the file so everyone can see which part was written by whom.
So the file said it was written by dwelch, while the history showed that
it was written by me (i didnt want to add my copyright into the file,
knowing that people can see from the history that i have written it was
enough satisfaction) - and now the history is gone and the file leaves
the impression that everything was written 100% by you.
Yes, the history was deleted, yes, I only added my name because the only
other code still in there is yours, and your name wasn't there before,
so I assumed that you didn't want it added back.
If it wasnt there before, how could one want it to be _added back_? i think
you are misunderstanding that this was not what i wanted (and i wouldnt ask
you to do it, i could do that myself)
99% of people would've
assumed that David wrote the old code too, and any project copying that
file woudl've LOST the svn history as well, so nobody would've known
that you wrote it either.
99% of people looking at hostilix source will assume that it was written by
them.
IMO we
should try to take care of others copyright (even if you dont like
them)
I've always insisted on someone doing a "svn log" and adding
everyone's
names...
Simply keeping the history wouldnt require that.
I also find it childish that you keep telling
everyone I don't
like you.
I was referring to you when you ask people if they want to join the "David
Welch haters club" or whatever you call it.
I never
asked you to add my copyright back to the file, and you would also
have to add david welch again (and all the others from the old history
which worked on the file), no only me!
I totally agree, except that David doesn't really hold any copyright in
the file anymore, not even derivative.
Yes, should be easy to prove that to a judge.
Unless you consider the general
process of switching stacks, editing TSS, updating LDT and CR3 as
copyrighted by David (you will notice that most of these opertions are
done differently in my code).
I was thinking of the effort which others have put into the code to get it
right (do the right thing at the right time, fix some bugs by adding some
code and so on) - you cannot tell me that you have written the new code
without looking at the old code or thinking of how the old code did things.
I just wanted to say that IMO it would have been better to keep the history,
because others have put lotsa effort into developing the concept which you
improved (and implemented in a rewrite)
I remember when you asked me if i had an idea why your rewrite crashes when
graphics mode is switched on, and i could immediately tell you why - you
didnt save and restore ESP0 in the TSS, which wasnt needed before i added the
FPU stuff, and it took me a few days to find out that i have to save it and
restore it to make it work with my other changes. Do you consider such stuff
"general"?
The history of the old code shows that i have added that part, in the new
code/history there's no notice of it.
Now please dont act so childish again to publicly insult me with such a dumb
commit message, asshole!
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