25 Feb
2012
25 Feb
'12
4 a.m.
"Faster release cycle is better" is what a bunch of idiots at Mozilla
Corporation said.
And now their browser has begun the process of becoming more
bloated, much slower, and contains more and more useless rubbish and
"features" with every release, while the competition (including
Internet Explorer) is excelling on simple and useful things, such as a
UI that doesn't randomly freeze solid every five minutes.
I strongly oppose this "faster release cycle" unless it means simply
tagging a TRUNK build that "just works" as a release and releasing
without doing anything further, apart from maybe the occasional
bootscreen/login screen change to reflect the version number.
If you want to try new features, use a trunk build.
Quick release may actually *reduce* the interest in ReactOS when people
try the "stable" builds only to find that it is a lot buggier because
of the absurdly limiting deadlines, and so few final fixes could be
made.
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:31:52 +0000
Andrew Faulds <ajfweb(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Good! Let's proceed with 0.3.15... a faster
release cycle is better,
and will help interest in ROS as people will be able to see clearly
that progress is being made (as opposed to appearing to be stagnant to
those who do not look at trunk).
Plus, I want a "stable" release to try some new features ;P
On 24 February 2012 11:49, Amine Khaldi <amine.khaldi(a)reactos.org>
wrote:
February 2012 Meeting Minutes
2012-02-23
19:45 UTC
Fezile, #meeting
Proceedings
===========
* Meeting started at 19:45 UTC by Aleksey Bragin.
* Point 1: Release status: 0.3.15
---------------------------------
* Aleksey Bragin proposed that we prepare trunk and release 0.3.15,
as it is now, before anything major happens. Several members then
wondered about the status of USB and the "mshtml bug". Jerome
Gardou explained a bit about how the mshtml bug is far from
completely being fixed, because if you look at testbot's results,
there are still some problems with ASSERTs hit and some bad
pagefaults happening when paging out.
* A lengthy discussion occurred, about how ready trunk is, whether
it's in a better state than 0.3.14, the state of the theme to be
bundled with ros, the plan for CLT, whether we should go
0.4<something> or 0.3.15... This was settled through a voting: "Do
you agree to release 0.3.15 with current trunk features, before
CLT?".
* The total number of votes was 21, with 11 votes as Yes, 5 as No,
and 5 abstentions. As a result, we will be having a 0.3.15 release
with CLT being the deadline.
* Point 2: New website status and migration plans
-------------------------------------------------
* Amine Khaldi gave a quick summary on the state of the website
revamp:
- Quite some progress has been made in the theming department,
and it's visible from the playground. It's starting to look a lot
like the current one, which means it's almost done (only some
issues are left).
- Maciej Bialas has been investigating how to import users from
the RosCMS. We will most likely need to compromise: members will
have to reenter passwords when we migrate, but we'll see.
- Amine Khaldi then mentioned that we need help from web devs
familiar with Drupal. Alexander Rechitskiy mentioned that he has a
guy that wants to be part of the web team, and he passes his info
to Amine to establish the contact.
- He also mentioned that Maciej is very busy, so the progress
will slow down, and that the current short term plan is to continue
the theming work, provide a way to import users, import the rest of
data from wiki/bugzilla...etc and finally add the phpbb bridge.
* He then summarized the summary by saying: We needs skillful
drupal guys, we're almost there, and that's it.
* Point 3: CMake migration and finally abandoning RBuild
--------------------------------------------------------
* Amine Khaldi suggested that it's time to ditch rbuild, as he
suspects most of our members have migrated already. Agreement on
that, from ours members, was unprecedented as *everyone* were on
favor of this :)
* We agreed on doing the necessary commits/infrastructure changes
ASAP, ie "tonight" (relative to the meeting of course), but that
didn't happen just yet so it's just a matter of time. Amine Khaldi
wants to do the honors (the commit that will remove rbuild and its
related files).
* Amine Khaldi also mentioned that he's preparing a nice little
surprise for major build performance boost, on many levels, so stay
tuned guys ;)
* Jerome Gardou explained that he'll be handling the PCH support to
get it to a much better state than it is right now.
* Point 4: Added per Amine Khaldi's request: GSoC preparations
--------------------------------------------------------------
* Amine Khaldi explained that he created a Google Doc and invited
the interested members. He asked the members to collaborate and
shape up an excellent ideas list, projects that fit in GSoC at both
the time and complexity levels.
* Colin suggested building up on the last year in terms of
informative content (wiki pages from last year), covering questions
about how we deal with students, our application form... etc.
* Meeting closed at 21:45 UTC by Aleksey Bragin.
* Minutes written by Amine Khaldi.
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