Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

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Do not forget, VS2010has acoverageofVCnewbuildengine:msbuild.Vs2008whennot coveredvc.


At 2013-01-05 03:30:23,"J. C. Jones" <jaibuduvin(a)gmail.com> wrote:


Ok. VS2010+ it will be. J

 

I will do a quick review to make sure that we can get all the multiple-CPU development
features, etc. and report back.

 

Cheers.

 

From:[e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Aleksey
Bragin
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:25 PM
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

 

It's up to you of course, but VS2008 is too dated, and VS2012 is "too new"
indeed, so many devs will cry about incompatible project files.
So, VS2010 would be the ideal bet, as Ged said.

Regards,
Alex Bragin

On 04.01.2013 23:21, J. C. Jones wrote:

Yes.

 

But initially, I wanted to make it so that anyone, especially a newbie, could go from
discovering ReactOS, to an edit-compile-link-debug cycle of “Hello, World!” within the IDE
 in 30 minutes or less (not the OS, just a single app). That means accommodating whatever
version of Visual Studio they are using. VS2008 is safe, because, no matter which version
they are using: VS2008, VS2010, VS2011, or VS2012, the conversion would be done
automatically, on their machine, and since the project files in SVN would be locked,
there’d be no harm done to SVN using this method. However, if I start out with VS2012, for
example, then, sure, they could go and download VS2012 alongside say, VS2010…but my goal
was to present a totally new user with the SVN URL for ReactOS, and say, “Here is is. Give
it a try!”, and remove all excuses for them trying it out. [I figured that having to
install a 1GB+ tool alongside a very similar tool was a bigger excuse for most newbie
developers than having to wait < 5 minutes to watch the VS2012 do its conversion.]

 

That said, if Visual Studio users came back and said, “We’re not using VS2008 anyway!”
then I would change it, and I am definitely open to ideas on this.

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:43 AM
To: 'ReactOS Development List'
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

 

VS2008?

Shouldn’t you be doing this in 2012, especially considering the much improved support for
kernel mode projects.

At the very least you should be using 2010 as 2012 can open 2010 project without
modification to project files.

 

 

 

From:[e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of J. C.
Jones
Sent: 04 January 2013 02:40
To: 'ReactOS Development List'
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

 

Yes, it is one thing to create a project file, which takes 15-30 seconds. It is another
thing to get the configuration right.  Fortunately, there are copious notes and
highly-readable scripts in the tree which practically say what needs to be done, so I do
not anticipate any major hurdles.

 

I spent a little time in the source tree today. I integrated a few modules into Visual 
Studio 2008, an tested calc, by buiding it from within Visual Studio for x86-32 and
x86-64. It ran fine, thanks to the author(Mr. Carlo Bramini) who left good notes in his
source code. Just for kicks, I also created an ARM-based project that would run on the
Raspberry Pi, compiled it from within  VS2008, and ran it inside the emulator that comes
with VS2008. That ran fine also. Tomorrow I will ask a colleague to try the following:

1.       Pull the repository to his local hard disk from inside Visual Studio.

2.       Hit Build.

3.       Run calc in an edit- compile-debug loop.

 

 

From:[e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Timo
Kreuzer
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:18 AM
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

 

Am 02.01.2013 19:04, schrieb J. C. Jones:

It would take 2-3 hours to create VS projects for all user-mode modules.

No offence, but I think you are highly underestimating the magnitude of our codebase. We
are talking about several hundred modules. And you probably also overestimate the pace at
which you can create project files. I did that myself for a much smaller project, so I
know what I'm talking about.
But maybe I'm wrong and they call you "The Machine" :D

 

 

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