Re: [ros-dev] I think I know how uxtheme works...

[Robert Köpferl]

Double Full ACK.
I'm questioning long time for what theming is good for. But if 
implementing those stuff - please in a clean/fundamental manner.

Richard Campbell wrote:
>   It's enough that we need to implement all of the
> functionality of a 
>  Microsoft OS.  Adding new/different features or making things behave 
>  differently only complicates things and makes it harder to nail down 
>  compatibility problems.  Theme support is 'extra' and should wait until 
>  closer to a 1.0 release.  The GUI itself isn't even functionally 
>  complete yet (radio buttons need some work, there is graphical 
>  corruption running certain apps like explorer, just try to scroll in 
>  explorer).  Resources would better be spent fixing these problems then 
>  adding themeing, which would almost certainly make things even more 
>  complex than they already are.
>  
>  
>  Robert Köpferl wrote:
>  
> >  
> >
> >  Richard Campbell wrote:
> >
> > >   I honestly wouldn't take this approach. 
> > > While microsoft may do this, 
> > >  you can use a different approach without sacrificing compatibility 
> > >  (well, except for maybe anything from stardock.)  Microsoft's 
> > >  approach is kind of hackish/kludgy, and even worse, it's slow.
> > >
> > >  A better approach would be a plugin system.  User32/gdi32/win32k 
> > >  would pass off rendering calls to a plugin, which would be 
> > >  responsible for the actual drawing.  That way you could completely 
> > >  change HOW things are drawn, for instance, you can create an opengl 
> > >  accelerated windowing system, etc.  Hmm...maybe i could write a draft 
> > >  for such a system....now i'm wanting to code, hehe.  Granted, this 
> > >  would probably be better off as a fork or 3rd party project...but 
> > >  still... 
> >
> >
> >  Full ACK.
> >  When I first saw the 'super duper new luna GUI' I was disappointed what
> >  MS did. It is hackish or set on top. I thought, when they are MS and do
> >  have access to the src, why don't they realize some kind of plugin
> >  system or do the theming in win32k.sys. So this is one point, where we
> >  can do better than the original. (while theming is one of the latter
> >  things we need)
> >
> >
> >  BTW. there are manny more things we could do different and better than
> >  MS. I often ask wether the setup2 must be so simmilar to that of w2k or
> >  welcome.exe. It is really a copy. So far.
> >
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