Re: [ros-dev] HDD Geometry switch

[Pierre Schweitzer]

Let's please stop this drama. It won't bring anything good in the project.
I wouldn't like to see people leaving the project or questioning their 
involvement in it. Especially for two constants change.

Eric motivated its changes. Olaf, you motivated your (and perhaps 
others) grievances.
The only thing we ask you now is to test whether this change effectively 
affects your disks and your capacity to regress-test ReactOS.
If you answer, we'll probably be able to help you. Otherwise, we won't.

Let's discuss this as gentlemen. If it starts being a real problem for 
several testers, then I propose we push this as a topic for the next 
meeting (in 3 days).

On a side note, more than a year ago, Eric & I already talked about a 
geometry change in ReactOS. Perhaps should have we warned earlier this 
would have to be done. Would have it changed something? I'm not sure.

On 11/28/2011 01:44 PM, caemyr(a)myopera.com wrote:
>   Yes there is a problem
>
>  Does anyone care for any suggestions?? Despite ROS being in feature-freeze, pre-release
> period, such change is simply commited without any consultation.
>
>  Since when you should discuss changes AFTER applying them??
>
>  This discussion is pointless. I indeed whined too much. I should simply follow other
> testers we had previously and stop wasting my time. No wonder why we always had few times
> less testers than devs, if the primer are simply ignored.
>
>  Let me stop being rude and disrespectful, by finishing this discussion.
>
>  Next time when you be needing regression testing, please email Eric insted.
>
>  Regards
>
>  On Monday, November 28, 2011 12:29 PM, "Ged
> Murphy"<gedmurphy.maillists(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >   Instead of rushing in to insult people in the way
> > you did, why not try to
> >  discuss things.
> >
> >  Firstly, is there actually a problem? You might find that your partitions
> >  can still be read and this was just a miscommunication.
> >  If they can't, explain the problem and request that the change be
> >  reverted
> >  for now while the problem is further discussed.
> >
> >  Do you have any suggestions on how this change could be better
> >  integrated?
> >  You might find that this is one of those all or nothing changes which is
> >  unavoidable. It's not really a valid argument to stick with deprecated
> >  technology or configurations just because it disrupts testing rigs.
> >  Sometimes there's no other way than to make the leap and deal with the
> >  outcome as best as possible.
> >
> >  I think Eric did everything he needed to notify people that this change
> >  was
> >  coming. ReactOS' primary communication medium is the ros-dev mailing
> >  list,
> >  and despite what anyone else may think, it's definitely not the
> >  #reactos-dev
> >  IRC channel. He notified that the change was coming, there were no
> >  objections and then the change came some days later. If only more high
> >  impact changes were done like this.
> >
> >  Lastly, I find it a little petty and completely untrue to say you would
> >  be
> >  'kicked out the next day' or that no one values the time you spend.. You
> >  know your work on reactos is just as respected and important as anyone
> >  else's.
> >
> >  Ged.
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
> >  Behalf Of caemyr(a)myopera.com
> >  Sent: 28 November 2011 11:41
> >  To: ReactOS Development List
> >  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] HDD Geometry switch
> >
> >  Was I and my work treated any better? I`m fed up with such selfish
> >  approach
> >  in this project. Had I tried to impose such serious change as this one,
> >  in
> >  the way it was did here, i would be kicked out the next day.
> >
> >  I spent many months and money collecting hardware to test ReactOS with,
> >  and
> >  now i can trash all of it. Same as usual, you expect us testers to be
> >  waiting on call to to the bloody dirty job, but on the other hand have no
> >  problems making their work miserable. Yet you dare to bash me for lack of
> >  respect??
> >
> >  You might not value my time i spend for this project, but i do.
> >
> >  Good day to you all
> >
> >  On Monday, November 28, 2011 10:44 AM, "Ged Murphy"
> >  <gedmurphy.maillists(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >   Do you have to work at being this rude and
> > > disrespectful or does it just
> > >  come naturally to you?
> > >  This is the a great example of why the reactos forums are such a nasty
> > >  place
> > >  to visit.
> > >  You must be quite proud. 
> >  -- 
> >  With best regards
> >  Caemyr
> >
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