Re: [ros-dev] 1294 [dreimer] Fix clean for cmake trees. ...

[Kamil Hornicek]

whatever you use for downloading the installer has to be configured to 
connect throught the proxy and also to use its dns services for host name 
resolving. if the installer itself isn't aware of the need for proxy server 
(or is not able to connect through socks or whatever the proxy uses) it 
won't be usually able to resolve the hostname it's trying to connect to 
(depends on the exact network configuration). also the default route to the 
internet would be missing or direct outgoing connections would be blocked 
(which they usually are otherwise you wouldn't be forced to use the proxy 
server in the first place) so the traffic generated by the installer 
wouldn't have any means to reach its destination.

I didn't want to derail the discussion and I apologize for that. I'll shut 
up next time.

Kamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Ionescu" <ionucu(a)videotron.ca>
To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 1294 [dreimer] Fix clean for cmake trees. ...


>   Since online installers use HTTP, and the user got the
> installer off HTTP, 
>  what would a proxy server change?
>
>  --
>  Best regards,
>  Alex Ionescu
>
>  On 2011-06-03, at 12:33 PM, Kamil Hornicek wrote:
>
> >   I didn't want to spam this discussion but I
> > have to.. What every other 
> >  software company also does is refusing to believe someone might be behind 
> >  a proxy server. If you go this way, please make sure the installer 
> >  doesn't need a direct connection. Also online installers are generally a 
> >  major pain in the ass if you don't provide an offline installer too.
> >
> >  ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Ionescu
> >  To: ReactOS Development List
> >  Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:56 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 1294 [dreimer] Fix clean for cmake trees. ...
> >
> >
> >  Why separate installers for x64/ARM?
> >
> >
> >  Just do what every software company this side of the century does: a 
> >  400kb installer which lets you select the packages you want, and 
> >  downloads them.
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Best regards,
> >  Alex Ionescu
> >
> >
> >  On 2011-06-03, at 11:38 AM, Zachary Gorden wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Spoke with Amine and Daniel.  I've agreed to the lesser evil of bundling 
> >  the FULL cmake.  Reasons are if we want the BE to be flexible enough to 
> >  be used for more than just building ROS, we can't gimp cmake with the 
> >  belief that no one will need the things we didn't include.  This is again 
> >  on Windows.  I remain uninvolved with decisions about the Linux BE.
> >
> >
> >  On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Timo Kreuzer <timo.kreuzer(a)web.de> wrote:
> >
> >  My vote on this:
> >  CMake: bundle it, optional on installation
> >  x64/arm: create individual installers
> >
> >
> >
> >  * CMake: bundle it, go for the (minimal) version without an installer. 
> >  It's nothing "exotic" to install after all, just put it together with the 
> >  other utilities in RosBE.
> >
> >  * x64/arm: If build tool sizes are staying like this, create individual 
> >  installers. Just for testing, I'll try an x86/x64 multilib build of 
> >  Binutils and GCC though, would be nice to know how much smaller it is 
> >  compared to separate x86 and x64 compilers.
> >
> >  So in general, I agree with Timo :-)
> >
> >
> >  - Colin
> >
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