im sorry aleksey, but dont you think this is the mindset that drives away willing helpers

On 4/17/07, Aleksey <aleksey@reactos.org > wrote:
    Hi Lucio,
I must say, that there were a lot of efforts to get our tools working as
easy as possible. Even a global login system was introduced way back so that
you don't need to create an account for wiki, for bugzilla, for forum, for
wiki, for the main website - you just create one. A lot of time was spent in
order to do this (every piece of software needed to be customised - Ge and
Klemens put a lot of their personal time into this).

I will answer between the lines below so it makes better sense.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lucio Diaz" <reactos_translate@yahoo.es>
To: <ros-dev@reactos.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:08 AM
Subject: [ros-dev] About translation


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> -Many like me can install SVN, and get the source
> code, but never have made a patch, or even used
> bugzilla(and probably wont have the time).

If a contributor has SO small time that he can't even submit his work to a
bugzilla or, at least, send a patch to a relevant person (the same language
native speaker developer or another translator who has more time), then it's
better to wait when he/she has more free time to contribute.

Some  people just have bussy lives; maybe it would be more suitable for you to simply say that if they dont know the best way to submit it, email it here...

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> files, but sending them to bugzilla... i dont know how
> to send them to bugzilla, i dont have a bugzilla
> acount, it was tiring trying to find someone to send
> the files, and i dont have the time or will to learn
> bugzilla.

That shows you really did not even slightly investigated how the website
works. And instead you're proposing a whole workflow for developers, so they
mandatory spent a few hours per week maintaining all the stuff you.

During that 2 years you should have spent just a bit of time, even 20
minutes, to overview our website and systems we have there, and another 20
minutes to read online manuals/help for them. Excuses like "I didn't have
time" hardly apply here.

i understand  that  people often have more  time than they think, as i often suffer of this, but that last line just sounds a little distasteful

WBR,
Aleksey Bragin.



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