Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft Office files in the trunk

[Sarocet]

I'm unsure about how did you measured it, but i remember MS Office had some 
tricks to be faster. It adds on windows start OSA.EXE to load prematurely 
its libraries so when you called the Office programs they were already 
half-loaded. That could also show the memory less for having the DLL loaded?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nate DeSimone" <desimn(a)rpi.edu>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft Office files in the trunk


>   Time to Load (sec)
>  ------------------
>  OpenOffice.org 2-----5.5
>  Office 2003----------1.2
>
>  Memory Usage after Loading
>  --------------------------
>  OpenOffice.org 2------41.7 MB
>  Office 2003-----------15.9 MB
>
>     Also the argument that office "hides" its memory usage since it uses 
>  Windows code doesn't seem to have much bearing, if you look at the memory 
>  use of it running under crossover in Linux its ~20MB used by all the wine 
>  processes, I personally could see wine using 5MB for itself.  I'm sorry to 
>  say it but OpenOffice is an absolute hog, it makes Office look lean!  Now 
>  I really do like open source software, don't get me wrong.
>     Thankfully the OpenOffice project is not the rule for the open source 
>  community, it is the exception.  The problem with OpenOffice is they 
>  inherited a horrible codebase from Sun (which was developed in a closed 
>  source fashion btw), and unlike the Mozilla project they did not attempt 
>  to fix the underlying codebase before jumping right in.  If you look at 
>  old versions of StarOffice you may notice that it loads up a unified 
>  suite, where one app does word processing, spreadsheet... everything. 
>  While OpenOffice has separated the apps from each other, it doesn't appear 
>  all of the tightly integrated code has been unwound yet.  When you add all 
>  that old code with Java it becomes big.  Then when you consider that the 
>  OpenOffice "community" is made up of mostly Sun employees I'm not suprised
>
>  about the memory requirements *cough* Java *cough*.  At least google is 
>  getting involved with the intention of leaning it down a bit.
>
>     Anyway my point is I personally still see good reason to stick with 
>  Office, and I hope that the open product becomes up to par in the future.
>
>
>
>  Michael B. Trausch wrote:
>
> >  Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
> >
> > >  I disagree with this. I don't know how to use
> > > oo.o or variants, and I 
> > > don't
> > > intend on learning something I have no interest in. I'm currently putting 
> > > together a presentation for the speeches I have coming
> > > up on ReactOS. If a rule was put in place where we could only commit
> > > OpenDocument files, I would simply not put it into the repository and 
> > > would
> > > instead share it with anyone who wanted it via email.
> > >
> > > This isn't because I'm being awkward, it's because I have no time or
> > > interest to learn a new office suite .... and I certainly don't want to
> > > install oo.o on my machine.
> > >
> > > I suppose it's this attitude which keeps MS Office up as a monopoly, 
> > > which
> > > now make me realise why they don't want to support OpenDocument.
> > >
> > >  
> > I don't know what "learning" there is.  You may have to find something
> > lurking a few items up or down in a menu; however, the things that it
> > can do over that of what Office can do, is pretty amazing.  It's
> > intuitive, and unless you're a heavy VBScript programmer, you wouldn't
> > be disappointed.
> >
> >  - Mike
> >
> >
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