Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2020)

[Magnus Johnsson]

Just a question from the outside here. If we look forward instead of
backwards, what work would it take to make *just the command line build
tools* work on reactos for newer versions?
Is that something to strive for? Is there a missing API, is it
fundamentally incompatible in some way, is reactos 'target windows version'
wrong..?

Den ons 2 dec. 2020 kl 11:14 skrev <gedmurphy.maillists(a)gmail.com>om>:

>   I unfortunately don't get to contribute much
> anymore due to other
>  commitments, so my view has little weight here, however I just wanted to
>  throw my support behind Colin here in his effort to move the project
>  forward.
>
>  Personally, I'd love to see reactos move to more modern standards,
>  allowing more emphasis to be placed onto modern C++ and the benefits it
>  brings:
>  - Support for scoped resources and RAII
>  - Better type checking
>  - Stronger use of const correctness
>  - Range based loops
>  - Use of bool and nullptr instead of BOOLEAN/BOOL and NULL
>  - Even use of the thing I hate the most ... auto 😊
>  - STL in user mode
>  - vectors, lists, etc
>  - NATVIS support to make the above easy to debug
>  - etc, etc, etc
>
>  I'm not advocating that these should be requirements, or to ever try to
>  push devs to make use of them, but it would be incredibly useful to give
>  developers the option if they prefer, as so many developers no do.
>
>  If it were me, I'd be tempted to drop VS2015 support too, only ever
>  supporting the last two major toolchains from any compiler.
>
>  Ged.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org> On Behalf Of Colin Finck
>  Sent: 02 December 2020 08:07
>  To: ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2020)
>
> >   1. Visual Studio 2010 is the last version that
> > works (or almost works)
> >  on ReactOS [...]
> >  2. Dropping useful features is not really a good idea at all. 
>  Oleg, nobody wants to take away any features here. VS2010 will continue
>  to run on ReactOS now and in the future. This discussion is merely about
>  *compiling ReactOS* with VS2010.
>
>  Everyone, please put personal preferences aside and think about the big
>  picture:
>  We don't have the workforce Microsoft had when creating Windows XP.
>  The only way we can ever create a compatible OS is by leveraging modern
>  technologies not yet available back then and building on the open-source
>  work third parties have already done for us.
>  If we however decide to limit us to 10-year-old technologies now, we can
>  do neither. Don't expect us to ever get this project into a usable state
>  in a lifetime then.
>  The future of the project is at stake here!
>
>  I don't want to repeat myself, so let me just link to the reasoning I
>  already gave:
>  * https://reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2020-December/019158.html
>  * https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/2658#issuecomment-619540076
>  * https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/2658#issuecomment-629498043
>  * https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/2658#discussion_r427615924
>  * https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/2658#issuecomment-631113317
>
>
>  Best regards,
>
>  Colin Finck
>
>
>
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