25 Mar
2017
25 Mar
'17
10:07 p.m.
Hello everybody,
I'm new to ReactOS for just a few days. I did not contribute to ReactOS
yet. So, I don't feel qualified to discuss Colin's proposal, but maybe
it'll help you giving you statements from another perspective.
Since there already exist so many answers, I just decided to answer
Colin's proposal directly.
I think that your problem is not a technical one. What you need are
people feeling responsible to newcomers.
A week ago, when I joined #reactos, I asked for some legal advice.
Luckily, learn_more copied my question to #reactos-dev since I wouldn't
have joined that chan on my own, because I'm not a developer yet.
Unfortunately, my question has not been answered yet a couple of hours
later, so I followed learn_more's hint to reask my question on the
ReactOS devs mailing list. There, I got different answers leading me to
the thought that nobody is quite sure about it. Afterwards, I supposed
that someone could adapt the Wiki due to the clarification, but nobody
cared, not even now.
There is also another newcomer, Pranay Pratyush, who asked for some
newbie help, too, but nobody answered yet (at least not publicly). This
also reinforced my impression that nobody feels responsible to new
people. I bet, if you would welcome them, you could have more developers
in a few weeks.
Instead of Colin's proposal, I suggest that you create a new IRC channel
#reactos-dev-newbies (or something like that) and put in some of you who
will greet newcomers and so on. This chan might be open for everyone.
Once established, this should fulfill its purpose round the clock. Thus,
it'll force you to have some of you being responsible to newcomers.
I hope that I could help.
Tobias
Am 24.03.2017 11:21 schrieb Colin Finck:
Hi all!
As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.
This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way
to
interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate
questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some
contributors
have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev.
Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students
shall
submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers.
How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
exclusive club?
Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
#reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if
nothing
else helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
it's fully in their hands.
Cheers,
Colin
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