[ros-dev] disussion from forum

Hi ReactOS guy's,

are you not able to discuss a topic in your forum or why did you delete my
post in http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4307 ?

Here is it again:

[quote="jimtabor"]
The irc meetings, there are two I think. It was voting on how to do the
audit. Later if I remember right, we started movie review and joking around
with unrelated issues.
[/quote]

I'm missing something about the meetings. [url=
http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2006-January/007478.html]Ste…
mail[/url] starts with:

[quote="Steven Edwards"]
There has been a lot of talk about possible tainted code in ReactOS and or
developers that had access to leaked Microsoft source code.
[/quote]

and later

[quote="Steven Edwards"]
We know of four developers who have had access to leaked sources prior to
working on ReactOS..
[/quote]

Depend on the [url=http://www.reactos.org/en/dev_legalreview.html]ReactOSproject
development policy[/url]

[quote="ReactOS project development policy"]
Developers who have had access to proprietary source code that would have
originally fallen under trade secret protection (including, for example, the
leaked Microsoft Windows source code) are a special case. The copyright
issues are unchanged, as are the patent issues, but any developer who has
the code is clearly either under an NDA or else does not have a license to
possess the code. In the latter case, there is a clear violation of the
relevant trade secrets by the developer. As such, this kind of code is
unsuitable even for research and understanding. It is the policy of the
Project to not take submissions from developers who have or use any such
proprietary code in their development efforts for ReactOS.
[/quote]

this developers have to be banned from the project. Steven's mail or the
developer's voting wasn't so restrictive:

[quote="Steven Edwards"]
4) any developer that had access to leaked sources is baned from
contributing code to the project for any of the modules that are the
same as leaked sources they examined.
[/quote]

The question is, why are the tainted developers not banned? If only a few of
the developers had access to the leaked windows source code, it is not a
problem to ban them. I think more than four developers had access to the
leaked windows source code. In this case it will never get a vote for
banning the tainted developers, because they must ban itself. It exists the
'Open letter to all' from Alex. I've got the original mail with all the
names from one of the developers.

[quote="Alex's 'Open letter to all'"]
/*Steven, Aleksey, Mike and myself had leaked windows code and looked at it.
KJK, Eric, Filip, Magnus and Marteen had IDA and used it for reverse
engineering. 9 developers, and these are only some cases.*/ Herve too,
sometimes used IDA to verify some flags (I once helped him understand a
weird DEVICE_EXTENSION structure), and Thomas, although against
reverse-engineering, also used IDA to verify some implementations, although
he said he never used it to actually reverse-engineer, and I believe him,
although, once you have seen the taint, it's hard to really psycologically
prove how much you were, or were not influenced by it. /*With more then
2/3rds of the entire developer team having broken the law and/or our IP
policy, I continued my work in the same way.*/
[/quote]

Now the story make sense. The implementation of ReactOS is based on the
leaked windows source code and possible more than the four named developers
had or have access to this code.

[quote="jimtabor"]
As you all can see, things have gone on to this project. Money was the key
word here. Wine, Casper, GvG, hbirr etc,,, mass manipulation to gain from
other peoples work.
[/quote]

And now it makes sense why you accuse some of the developers, which had left
the project, that they have done something for money...

The only developer, which has something to do with money, is Alex. In May he
was bought by Microsoft.