Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)

[Dick]

It is common use to start beta from 0.5 because it is half way up to 1.0. 
bringing 0.5 as alpha willl cause much disappointment and is confusing for 
users.
I think an interesting point to talk about would be a roadmap. when can 
average users start to use reactos as their daily os? Is reactos able to 
become usable as windows-alternative before windows is gone and forgotten?

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, David Quintana (gigaherz) wrote:

>   I agree on "beta" being more like 80-90%
> implementation coverage, however
>  given the 80/20 rule applied to development, that says that < 20% of the
>  bugs cause >80% of the bug reports (I'd guess this will be 5% of the bugs
>  causing 95% of the reports, if not even more), so one could argue that
>  having a codebase 80% complete, is still only 50% of the work, because the
>  other 50% will be a whole lot of polishing.
>  
>  On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 18:03, Ged Murphy &lt;gedmurphy.maillists(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>
>        The link between 0.5 and beta was an old statement we used to
>        have on our website, I’m not sure why that relationship existed
>        other than a splitting an integer in half and assigning 0.5 to
>        each stage.
>
>        I’m more of the opinion that beta products are close to release,
>        so 0.8+ would be more suitable.
>
>         
>
>        Anyway, it’s a conversation to be had internally.
>
>         
>
>        Ged.
>
>         
>
>        From: Ros-dev &lt;ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org&gt; On Behalf Of
>        hermes.belusca(a)sfr.fr
>        Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:51
>        To: ReactOS Development List &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt;
>        Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
>
>         
>
>        ‌Hi!
>
>        Usually when we talk about ReactOS 0.5, we implicitly think that
>        it will enter beta state there.
>        So unless you consider this to not completely hold anymore, we
>        can look at what remains to be done/fixed (importantly) so that
>        we may qualify as going into beta state.
>        (And yes, USB and storage sound strongly as prerequisites for
>        0.5 in my opinion).
>
>        Best,
>        Hermes
>
>        De : "Ged Murphy"
>        A : "'ReactOS Development List'"
>        Envoyé: mercredi 28 novembre 2018 17:42
>        Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
>         
>
>        Some potential talking points:
>
>         
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>         o  Selecting a new coordinator
>         o  Version bump to 0.5
>         o  USB / Storage (perhaps linked to a 0.5 release)
>         o  Mattermost
>         o  New website progress
>
>         
>
>         
>
>        From: Ros-dev &lt;ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org&gt; On Behalf Of Mark
>        Jansen
>        Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:13
>        To: ReactOS Development List &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt;
>        Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
>
>         
>
>        We can discuss this if you are present, but I don't see the
>        value in discussing it without you.
>  
>  We have seen before that something discussed without the initiator
>  being present is time not well spent, since it is a bit hard to argue
>  with only one side of the argument present
>  
>   
>  
>   
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>   
>  
>  Op 26 nov. 2018 12:15 schreef hermes.belusca(a)sfr.fr:
>
>        Hello,
>
>        I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going
>        somewhere for a conference; it just depends at which time
>        I arrive at destination.
>
>        For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move
>        to delivering all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd +
>        installation in both text and GUI modes), and which
>        changes this could imply for our infrastructure
>        (buildbots/website...).
>
>        Best regards,
>        Hermes
>
>        De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo"
>        A : "ReactOS Development List"
>        Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06
>        Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
>         
>
>        I'm at work but I will do my best to attend!
>  
>   
>  
>  El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck &lt;colin(a)reactos.org&gt;
>  escribió:
>
>        Hi all!
>
>        Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting,
>        taking place next
>        Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC.
>        Invited members will again receive their credentials
>        shortly before the
>        meeting.
>
>        This will be the first meeting since August and I
>        hope we get some more
>        topics than just the obligatory Status Reports.
>        Please send your
>        proposals by replying to this mail.
>  
>
>        Best regards,
>
>        Colin
>
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