On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Zachary Gorden
<drakekaizer666@gmail.com> wrote:
I intend to package the BE so that you have one installer for the various platform targets instead of the current three installers we have right now. I am not familiar enough with NSIS to know why Daniel did not do this, though from his complaining I got the impression he didn't try to get any fancier with the NSIS installer because he didn't want to go through the trouble of futzing with it. One could argue that since we need little beyond installing files and making sure that an uninstallation actually cleans up the files and shortcuts, the best option is MSI since an MSI installer actually registers with the OS the things that need to be cleaned up when an application is to be uninstalled.
Also a correction to your comment about the MSI service. As far as I'm aware that is a start-on-demand service which only starts up if you run a MSI installer. It'll hang around for a bit afterward, but then turns itself off if you don't run another installer for a while.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Adam
<geekdundee@gmail.com> wrote:
Fair enough, but does RosBE actually do anything (installer-wise) other than install its files in a directory and set the occasional environment variable (PATH) - if this is the case, surely any installer (be it NSIS, Inno Setup, MSI, etc) can do this.
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:03:07 +1000, Zachary Gorden <
drakekaizer666@gmail.com> wrote:
The amount of functionality that MSIs offer comes with a price. Some of us
believe it is worth it. Some don't. We, meaning Daniel and myself, want a
MSI installer. If someone else wants to maintain the NSIS installer, we
will not stop them. We just won't offer any help doing so since we (Daneil
and myself) want a MSI installer.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Adam <geekdundee@gmail.com> wrote:
So having a service running all the time just to install programs, and
having to not be able to uninstall a program cleanly if the MSI file has
been moved/deleted (or if the MSI file that was copied into some obscure
place in the %SYSTEMROOT% path) or due to some other sort of failure,
provides an error, is clean is it? Not to mention it will be impossible to
uninstall in Safe Mode (should it be necessary) since MSIEXEC refuses to run
under Safe Mode these days.
Never tried WiX before, but the problem wouldn't be WiX - it would be
MSIEXEC and the way it works.
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:35:56 +1000, Ged Murphy <gedmurphy@gmail.com>
wrote:
Are you serious? Have you ever used WiX in a serious capacity?
It's far superior to NSIS in pretty much every way.
On 2 June 2011 22:18, Adam <geekdundee@gmail.com> wrote:
I do not like the idea of moving to Windows Installer for RosBE 2.0 - it
can
be quite tedious to clean up if the install is half done. IMO the
original
installer (NSIS) is much more cleaner than Windows Installer too.
If it ain't broke don't fix it I say.
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 06:52:17 +1000, Colin Finck <colin@reactos.org>
wrote:
dreimer@svn.reactos.org wrote:
> if not exist "CMakeLists.txt" (
Can we decide on dropping support for rbuild stuff in RosBE 2.0?
Reasons:
- RosBE 2.0 will certainly come with an updated set of build tools.
(GCC 4.6 with mingw-w64 target is planned, maybe even a multilib
version)
The target change already makes older builds uncompilable with RosBE
2.0. Even if this would be fixed, nobody would guarantee you that a
revision built with RosBE 2.0 behaves the same as one compiled with
1.5.x.
- Several versions of RosBE can be installed parallely, especially if
you're also moving to a Windows Installer for RosBE 2.0, which doesn't
care about Uninstall entries of NSIS. So everybody has the option
to build older rbuild-powered revisions at any time.
- It could make all scripts cleaner again :-)
Regards,
Colin
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