Re: [ros-dev] Ros-dev Digest, Vol 165, Issue 3

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>     1. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
>        tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo)
>     2. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
>        tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Erkin Alp Güney)
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>  Message: 1
>  Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 01:02:53 +0200
>  From: Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com>
>  To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
>          codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
>  Message-ID:
>          <CAAHf8rcC_PhT6OHmf-frhuB6tarj6SAj3un8AipR48hChEDM
>  gQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;
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>  as an alternative, Apache OpenOffice still supports NT5
>
>  On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM, David Quintana (gigaherz) <
>  gigaherz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> >   No need to panick, they themselves link to this
> > as an archive of old
> >  versions: https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/ 
>  libreoffice/old/
> >   So even if it's gone from their own site, it
> > should remain there.
> >
> >  On 6 May 2018 at 00:30, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo < 
>  elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt;
> >   wrote:
> >
> > > hello again guys,
> > >
> > > What if we get latest NT5 libreoffice version (5.4.6 as of now, and
> > > 5.4.7-rc1 is out) just for testing purposes? i guess it will be dropped
> > > from official website, andi don´t know if it will be still available in 
>  any
> >  > way......
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Michael Fritscher < 
> michael(a)fritscher.net&gt;
> >  > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> is there a list which need to be done to get the basic NT6 architecture
> > >> just to get feeling how much work it is? Sadly, I'm afraid that we'll
> > >> need a proper NT6 architecture to get modern drivers running, won't we?
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Michael Fritscher
> > >>
> > >> On 30.06.2017 11:46, Ged Murphy wrote:
> > >> > That’s what’s currently being worked on.
> > >> >
> > >> > The kernel still closely follows the NT5.2 architecture, but user 
> mode
> >  >> will have NT6+ compatibility shims to
> > allow modern applications to run
> > >> correctly.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > From: Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
> > >> ajaczgz(a)yahoo.es
> > >> > Sent: 30 June 2017 05:47
> > >> > To: ReactOS Development List &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt;
> > >> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> > >> codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I think it’s no neccesary to implement NT6, only to avoid the
> > >> compatibility tests to NT6 and implement only the characteristics that 
> the
> >  >> most of the programs uses.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Best regards
> > >> >
> > >> > Antonio J. Arrieta Cuartero
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Enviado desde mi Lumia 635 con Windows 10 Mobile
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > De: Riccardo Paolo Bestetti <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > >> > Enviado: jueves, 29 de junio de 2017 22:11
> > >> > Para: ReactOS Development List <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > >> > Asunto: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last 
> codeline
> >  >> tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello Colin,
> > >> >
> > >> > As this definitely wasn't the predominant thinking the last time this
> > >> same discussion took place, Hermès' email scared me a bit. Thank you so
> > >> much for clarifying.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Best regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >
> > >> > From: Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of 
> Colin
> >  >> Finck
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent: giovedì 29 giugno 2017 20:00
> > >> >
> > >> > To: ros-dev(a)reactos.org <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > >> >
> > >> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> > >> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Rest assured, we know that ReactOS won't be of much use if we stay
> > >> NT5-only. Work is underway to provide a seamless support of NT6
> > >> applications on top of the existing codebase.
> > >> >
> > >> > Also the majority of developers should be using an NT6 platform
> > >> themselves, so they certainly aim for support for NT6 applications.
> > >> >
> > >> > Finally, applications compiled by modern versions of Visual Studio 
> are
> >  >> NT6-only by default, so supporting this
> > platform is unavoidable.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Just my two cents, as the previous replies could lead you to believe
> > >> we're failing the reality check.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Colin
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Am 29.06.2017 um 18:54 schrieb Riccardo Paolo Bestetti:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I’m just gonna snap in for my yearly IT guy NT6 rant: this mindset
>  is
> >  >> >
> > >> >> going to kill the project by making it useless whenever it reaches a
> > >> >
> > >> >> usable state.
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >> Windows XP/Server 2003 use is **already** marginal as of today, and
> > >> >
> > >> >> it’s only gonna get “worse” as more and more networks get infected
>  by
> >  >> >
> > >> >> ransomware and institutions all over the world wake up and update
> > >> (and
> > >> >
> > >> >> as time passes of course). It’s not a matter of “fancy”, it is a
> > >> >
> > >> >> matter of what people use on their computers. With that argument you
> > >> >
> > >> >> may as well advocate for DOS.
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >> Please don’t be offended, as always this is only intended as a
> > >> reality
> > >> >
> > >> >> check.
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >> Best regards,
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >> Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >> *From:*Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] *On Behalf Of
> > >> >
> > >> >> *Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO
> > >> >
> > >> >> *Sent:* giovedì 29 giugno 2017 16:09
> > >> >
> > >> >> *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > <mailto:
> > >> ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt; >
> > >> >
> > >> >> *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> > >> >
> > >> >> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >> I’m wondering for which useless / fancy features they need Windows
>  7+
> > > >   >
> > > >  >> support only….
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> H.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> *De :*Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] *De la part de*
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo *Envoyé :* jeudi 29 juin 2017 15:48
> > > >  *À
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> :* ReactOS Development List *Objet :* [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice
> > > >  5.4
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> will be the last codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.4.0/RC1
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
> > > >  >> FYI
> > > >  >
> > > >  >>
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> > > >  >>
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> > > >  >>
> > > >  >
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