Because I track what MS does same as I track ROS, and many other platforms. That’s what
they prefer to access MSDN, so I maintain the account. I’ve had a project as large as ROS,
and other email accounts, deleted out from under me over the years, so I may be more
cynical than the situation warrants, but it isn’t paranoia.
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From: Pierre Schweitzer <pierre(a)reactos.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:46:55 PM
To: ReactOS Development List; M. Ziggyesque; David Quintana (gigaherz)
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub
Let's no be paranoid and make plans out of nothing please...
And if Microsoft are that evil, why are you using their mail services?
Le 05/06/2018 à 19:43, M. Ziggyesque a écrit :
No, I don't see it as pointless to have a plan B.
It's more a question of when, not if, it's desirable, given past practices.
Even with no immediate changes, github can no longer be considered vendor-neutral. Down
the road, as example, M$ may well try to require every project adopt their code-signing
policy or the project gets deleted, so they get their kickbacks on all the certificate
fees that would entail. ROS doesn't require code-signing?? DELETE!! They did similar
when they bought out sysinternals, bloated all their utilities with certificates, so
that's a distinct possibility.
While migrating the repo itself is easy, the issues list and other history is less so,
plus the hassle of getting links on external pages to redirect to a new home; those would
take some lead time so imo is better to have some plan than not.
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From: David Quintana (gigaherz)
Date: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 4:40 AM
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Subject:Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub
To elaborate further:
1. The deal won't be closed for many months (they expect december)
2. Microsoft probably won't change github at first (xcept maybe make the login
integrate with a Microsoft Account)
3. We don't know what they plan to do with the platform in the long term, so
worrying now is pointless.
4. We don't know that it will EVER be hostile toward ReactOS, even if they break
the platform and make it unusable, so chances are we are good.
5. If worst comes to worst, as Thomas said, we just say goodbye to GH and move
elsewhere.
On 5 June 2018 at 10:36, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
<elhoir@gmail.com<mailto:elhoir@gmail.com>> wrote:
great! :)
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Faber
<thomas.faber@reactos.org<mailto:thomas.faber@reactos.org>> wrote:
To elaborate, we're not dependent on GitHub in any significant way. It's
just convenient. But if it stops being so, it's easy to go elsewhere.
That's a key part of Git, being a "distributed" VCS.
On 2018-06-05 10:31, Oleksandr Shaposhnikov wrote:
No it may not.
5 черв. 2018 р. 11:24 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
<elhoir@gmail.com<mailto:elhoir@gmail.com>> пише:
May this affect ReactOS?
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-dev…
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