Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub

[M. Ziggyesque]

Because I track what MS does same as I track ROS, and many other platforms. That’s what they prefer to access MSDN, so I maintain the account. I’ve had a project as large as ROS, and other email accounts, deleted out from under me over the years, so I may be more cynical than the situation warrants, but it isn’t paranoia.

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From: Pierre Schweitzer [e-mail]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:46:55 PM
To: ReactOS Development List; M. Ziggyesque; David Quintana (gigaherz)
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub

Let's no be paranoid and make plans out of nothing please...

And if Microsoft are that evil, why are you using their mail services?

Le 05/06/2018 à 19:43, M. Ziggyesque a écrit :
> No, I don't see it as pointless to have a plan B. It's more a question of when, not if, it's desirable, given past practices.
>
> Even with no immediate changes, github can no longer be considered vendor-neutral. Down the road, as example, M$ may well try to require every project adopt their code-signing policy or the project gets deleted, so they get their kickbacks on all the certificate fees that would entail. ROS doesn't require code-signing?? DELETE!! They did similar when they bought out sysinternals, bloated all their utilities with certificates, so that's a distinct possibility.
>
> While migrating the repo itself is easy, the issues list and other history is less so, plus the hassle of getting links on external pages to redirect to a new home; those would take some lead time so imo is better to have some plan than not.
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: David Quintana (gigaherz)
> Date: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 4:40 AM
> To: ReactOS Development List;
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub
>
> To elaborate further:
> The deal won't be closed for many months (they expect december)
> Microsoft probably won't change github at first (xcept maybe make the login integrate with a Microsoft Account)
> We don't know what they plan to do with the platform in the long term, so worrying now is pointless.
> We don't know that it will EVER be hostile toward ReactOS, even if they break the platform and make it unusable, so chances are we are good.
> If worst comes to worst, as Thomas said, we just say goodbye to GH and move elsewhere.
>
> On 5 June 2018 at 10:36, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <[e-mail]:[e-mail]> wrote:
> great! :)
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Faber <[e-mail]:[e-mail]> wrote:
> To elaborate, we're not dependent on GitHub in any significant way. It's
> just convenient. But if it stops being so, it's easy to go elsewhere.
> That's a key part of Git, being a "distributed" VCS.
>
> On 2018-06-05 10:31, Oleksandr Shaposhnikov wrote:
> > No it may not.
> >
> > 5 черв. 2018 р. 11:24 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <[e-mail]:[e-mail]> пише:
> >  May this affect ReactOS?
> >
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