[ros-dev] Re : compatibility vs. correctness

[Sylvain Petreolle]

Aren't Wine tests based on a personal preferred behaviour (not really sticking to
windows in some cases) or MSDN ?
It would render them unreliable too.

 Kind regards,
Sylvain Petreolle


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----- Message d'origine ----
>   De : Ged <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com>
>  À : ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
>  Envoyé le : Lundi, 8 Décembre 2008, 13h02mn 04s
>  Objet : Re: [ros-dev] compatibility vs. correctness
>  
>  I don't really know why everyone is discussing this. This isn't something
>  that's up for debate, this is the way it is and it's not going to change.
>  We replicate the Windows API's 100%, if this means introducing a flaw or
>  bug, then so be it. 
>  The original post from Collibri highlights why it's so important to do this.
>  
>  Just so everyone knows the ReactOS stance on this:
>  - We must replicate the actual behaviour or the API's, not a personnal
>  preferred behaviour.
>  - MSDN should not be relied on, it isn't always correct.
>  - The Wine tests are designed for this exact thing, use them whenever
>  possible, or write your own test cases if it's not covered by them.
>  - The target usermode API we are aiming at is currently xp. Vista API's
>  (which we also implement) are an obvious exception to this.
>  
>  If anyone feels compelled to improve the API's, then apply for a job at
>  Microsoft. This is where the API behavioural decisions are made, not in
>  ReactOS.
>  
>  Hope that clears this up.
>  
>  Ged.
>  
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
>  Behalf Of Jeff Smith
>  Sent: 08 December 2008 01:36
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] compatibility vs. correctness
>  
>  Ged wrote:
> >   Zachary Gorden wrote:
> >
> >   
> > > Just because Windows was tolerant of this specific sloppiness doesn't 
> mean
> > >      
> >  we should be.
> >
> >  I completely disagree.
> >  We need to replicate the Windows API as closely as possible, warts and 
>  all.
> >   This is what compatibility is all about
> >
> >  Ged. 
> >
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> >    
>  My view is that we should implement ReactOS as 'the way Windows should 
>  have been' this could lead to faster or more stable environment. I also 
>  realize that Windows has a need for the warts in terms of compatibility. 
>  so What I think would make both camps happy (plus help troubleshooting 
>  issues in the future) is either make ReactOS correct, and release a 
>  'warts compatibility patch' that tries to implement the bugs for 
>  compatibility.
>  
>  the other option would be to put the bugs for compatibility in, but have 
>  a program built into ReactOS that enables/disable the bugs for 
>  compatibility. This will do 1 major thing for the developers, it'll 
>  allow them to fix every bug without wondering if it has to be there for 
>  compatibility.
>  
>  I intend to switch to ReactOS as soon as it's ready, in a perfect world 
>  ReactOS (atleast as I see it) would retain compatibility without the 
>  problems of Windows. I know this isn't a perfect world, I just hope my 
>  suggestion is of help.
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