Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

[Ged Murphy]

To speed up the process for you, I'd recommend you get a copy of RosBE and
run 'make msvc10'
This will generate all the project files and a solution for for you, in a
mostly buildable state. I think it may also generate some property sheets,
which you should definitely try to incorporate. I can help you with suitable
property sheets if you'd like some advise on this.

We've already put quite a bit of effort into generating dynamic visual
studio projects, (as this is definitely the only maintainable solution IMO),
so the outputted vcxproj files should lay down a good base for you to work
with. 

Ged.


From:  "J. C. Jones" <jaibuduvin(a)gmail.com>
Reply-To:  ReactOS List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Date:  Friday, 4 January 2013 19:30
To:  ReactOS List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Subject:  Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

Ok. VS2010+ it will be. J
 
I will do a quick review to make sure that we can get all the multiple-CPU
development features, etc. and report back.
 
Cheers.
 

From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
Behalf Of Aleksey Bragin
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:25 PM
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS
 

It's up to you of course, but VS2008 is too dated, and VS2012 is "too new"
indeed, so many devs will cry about incompatible project files.
So, VS2010 would be the ideal bet, as Ged said.

Regards,
Alex Bragin

On 04.01.2013 23:21, J. C. Jones wrote:
>   Yes.
>   
>  But initially, I wanted to make it so that anyone, especially a newbie, could
>  go from discovering ReactOS, to an edit-compile-link-debug cycle of ³Hello,
>  World!² within the IDE  in 30 minutes or less (not the OS, just a single app).
>  That means accommodating whatever version of Visual Studio they are using.
>  VS2008 is safe, because, no matter which version they are using: VS2008,
>  VS2010, VS2011, or VS2012, the conversion would be done automatically, on
>  their machine, and since the project files in SVN would be locked, there¹d be
>  no harm done to SVN using this method. However, if I start out with VS2012,
>  for example, then, sure, they could go and download VS2012 alongside say,
>  VS2010Šbut my goal was to present a totally new user with the SVN URL for
>  ReactOS, and say, ³Here is is. Give it a try!², and remove all excuses for
>  them trying it out. [I figured that having to install a 1GB+ tool alongside a
>  very similar tool was a bigger excuse for most newbie developers than having
>  to wait < 5 minutes to watch the VS2012 do its conversion.]
>   
>  That said, if Visual Studio users came back and said, ³We¹re not using VS2008
>  anyway!² then I would change it, and I am definitely open to ideas on this.
>  
>  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:43 AM
>  To: 'ReactOS Development List'
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS
>   
>  VS2008?
>  Shouldn¹t you be doing this in 2012, especially considering the much improved
>  support for kernel mode projects.
>  At the very least you should be using 2010 as 2012 can open 2010 project
>  without modification to project files.
>   
>   
>   
>  
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
>  Behalf Of J. C. Jones
>  Sent: 04 January 2013 02:40
>  To: 'ReactOS Development List'
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS
>   
>  Yes, it is one thing to create a project file, which takes 15-30 seconds. It
>  is another thing to get the configuration right.  Fortunately, there are
>  copious notes and highly-readable scripts in the tree which practically say
>  what needs to be done, so I do not anticipate any major hurdles.
>   
>  I spent a little time in the source tree today. I integrated a few modules
>  into Visual  Studio 2008, an tested calc, by buiding it from within Visual
>  Studio for x86-32 and x86-64. It ran fine, thanks to the author(Mr. Carlo
>  Bramini) who left good notes in his source code. Just for kicks, I also
>  created an ARM-based project that would run on the Raspberry Pi, compiled it
>  from within  VS2008, and ran it inside the emulator that comes with VS2008.
>  That ran fine also. Tomorrow I will ask a colleague to try the following:
>  1.       Pull the repository to his local hard disk from inside Visual Studio.
>  
>  2.       Hit Build.
>  
>  3.       Run calc in an edit- compile-debug loop.
>  
>   
>   
>  
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
>  Behalf Of Timo Kreuzer
>  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:18 AM
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS
>   
>  
>  Am 02.01.2013 19:04, schrieb J. C. Jones:
> >   It would take 2-3 hours to create VS projects for
> > all user-mode modules. 
>  No offence, but I think you are highly underestimating the
> magnitude of our
>  codebase. We are talking about several hundred modules. And you probably also
>  overestimate the pace at which you can create project files. I did that myself
>  for a much smaller project, so I know what I'm talking about.
>  But maybe I'm wrong and they call you "The Machine" :D
>  
>  
>    
 


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