i would suggest to start testing in real hardware too....

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Aleksey Bragin <aleksey@reactos.org> wrote:
You don't get it, because the procedures are incorrect and it's a drift away from the actual topic: I suggested starting our usual release process from the current trunk now, because otherwise there will be no fresh release for the coming CLT-2011 event in March.

Quoting Ged's email from 11 Oct 2011 to this list ("Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle"):
> A stable trunk should be an ongoing battle, not something reserved for release time.
> There shouldn’t be more than a weeks worth of release work required (the release itself is no more than a few hours work).
> ... It’s a tried and proven method used in most large open source projects and reactos is no exception
I fully agree with that, because it makes it easier for the opensource project to progress.

Now to the actual proposed procedures, which I can't find being anywhere near correct, and I explain why:
Patches should be applied as soon as possible, there is no need to wait for a feature freeze announcement (points 1 and 2 in the Timo's list). Then, if a patch adds some feature, it contradicts with the point 1 of the list.
Point 4 is also contradictive, high-priority bugs should also be fixed right away, without waiting for lower priority patches to be reviewed and regression solved in points 1-3.
Point 5 - "usability testing" is fully valid, yes, our testers do a very good job at that.


WBR,
Aleksey.



On Feb 15, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Ged Murphy wrote:

I don't get it, Timo suggests some correct procedures to follow and it gets
dismissed?



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Yeah sure, this is quite important, however as I said, we just had a
"natural" feature freeze when only bugfixes were committed to trunk
for about 2 or 3 weeks, and all new features went to the branches
(with some exceptions, but still).
Also, patches were reviewed and committed and as for regressions,
previous release had even more, so there is a progress and positive
view of the newcoming release.
Usability test is also something which our testers do all the time
when preparing a release, this includes testing golden apps etc.
Victor could explain more on this topic, and I would really like
testers to manage this kind of stuff and do some minimal quality
assurance.

Profit! :)


WBR,
Aleksey.


On Feb 15, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Timo Kreuzer wrote:


I'd like to come back to this and suggest a procedure:

1. Officially announce feature freeze.
2. Address patches in bugzilla. we have 31 patches in bugzilla and
we should have each of them reviewed and hopefully a lot comitted.
3. Address regressions. We have 47 (!!!) bugs marked as regressions
in bugzilla. We should go through each of them and check if its any
reasonable to fix them.
4. Address bugs with high severity / high priority. (5 blockers, 9
critical, 50 major... doh!)
5. Do a "usability test". This means installing and doing the usual
stuff, a user would do and note all problems, annoyances. Currently
ros crashes very often with failed assertions and other stuff. If
we ship this in a release, people will be very disappointed. so we
seriously need to improve the situation.
6. ???
7. profit

Timo


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