-1 imho, not at least debugging is possible, we keep accumulating regressions and not being able to debug is not an option to me...


> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:57:28 +0200
> From: jerome.gardou@laposte.net
> To: ros-dev@reactos.org
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] cmake rant
>
> +1 for Ged.
>
> Le 21/07/2011 18:51, Ged Murphy a écrit :
> > I'm all for deleting rbuild now and dealing with the consequences.
> > That would be better than the current situation, which seems rather
> > ridiculous at the moment.
> >
> > Right now if you change something, you have to :
> > - edit the cmakefiles.txt file
> > - edit the rbuild file
> > - possibly edit a pspec and spec file
> > - build with rbuild to check for breakages
> > - build with cmake to check for breakages
> >
> > Only then can you commit your changes.
> > It's not ideal for the people working on this stuff regularly.
> >
> > Ged.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] On
> > Behalf Of Timo Kreuzer
> > Sent: 21 July 2011 17:39
> > To: ReactOS Development List
> > Subject: [ros-dev] cmake rant
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Several times now cmake build has been broken. Time for some action!
> >
> > Last meeting I asked everyone to test/use cmake. It was also mentioned that
> > if questions arise, we (Amine and me) would be happy to help out. I can't
> > remember anyone has asked how it works, so I assume noone had any problems.
> > There's also a pretty good wiki entry describing the whole procedure for
> > n00bs.
> >
> > Now people tell me it's complicated, people are complaining that its
> > ridiculous to have 2 build systems, etc.
> > And probably noone has ever tried it.
> >
> > We really need to move on.
> > I don't like having 2 build systems as well.
> >
> > Current blocker is the debugging which has some issues, Arty is working on
> > that. Another problem is a boot problem on real hardware, but no I don't
> > know on which configuration it doesn't work, so we need more people testing
> > it on their real hardware setup and report any issues.
> >
> > Here's a list with current issues:
> > http://www.reactos.org/wiki/CMake_Todo
> >
> > So please:
> > If you are missing something, let us know.
> > If you like to make it better, make suggestions.
> > But stop ignoring cmake!
> >
> > If noone cares and everyone just thinks he can give a s^Z damn until we
> > officially switch, then we can as well delete all cmake stuff and keep
> > rbuild. It has a lot of awesome advantages, like you only have to type one
> > command to build everything and you don't need to install cmake and you can
> > export whatever you want from kernel32 even if the functions don't exist.
> > Also you can enjoy the rbuild-loop again and again.
> >
> > Or we can do it the hard way and delete rbuild, so people are forced to use
> > cmake. I'm sure this approach would be *really* appreaciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Timo
> >
> >
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