Re: [ros-dev] 1294 [dreimer] Fix clean for cmake trees. ...

[Alex Ionescu]

Again all of this is irrelevant: since I think you are a Linux user, I can understand why
you are confused.

On Windows, all HTTP communication is done by WinHTTP and/or WinINET, nobody writes their
own custom socket code.

WinHTTP/WinINET control the proxy settings for the machine. In fact, if you use Google
Chrome on Windows (or Safari) and go to the proxy/connection settings, you will see
"IE's" proxy connection dialog -- because these settings/dialog are owned by
the OS Library, not the individual applications.

Therefore, the installer will use 100% the same settings as the web browser, including the
same protocol.

So, as I stated, if the browser can download foo.exe, so will the online installer.

--
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

On 2011-06-03, at 1:50 PM, Kamil Hornicek wrote:

>   whatever you use for downloading the installer has to
> be configured to connect throught the proxy and also to use its dns services for host name
> resolving. if the installer itself isn't aware of the need for proxy server (or is not
> able to connect through socks or whatever the proxy uses) it won't be usually able to
> resolve the hostname it's trying to connect to (depends on the exact network
> configuration). also the default route to the internet would be missing or direct outgoing
> connections would be blocked (which they usually are otherwise you wouldn't be forced
> to use the proxy server in the first place) so the traffic generated by the installer
> wouldn't have any means to reach its destination.
>  
>  I didn't want to derail the discussion and I apologize for that. I'll shut up
> next time.
>  
>  Kamil
>  
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Ionescu" <ionucu(a)videotron.ca>
>  To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
>  Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:03 PM
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 1294 [dreimer] Fix clean for cmake trees. ...
>  
>  
> >   Since online installers use HTTP, and the user
> > got the installer off HTTP, what would a proxy server change?
> >  
> >  --
> >  Best regards,
> >  Alex Ionescu
> >  
> >  On 2011-06-03, at 12:33 PM, Kamil Hornicek wrote:
> >  
> > >   I didn't want to spam this discussion but I
> > > have to.. What every other software company also does is refusing to believe someone might
> > > be behind a proxy server. If you go this way, please make sure the installer doesn't
> > > need a direct connection. Also online installers are generally a major pain in the ass if
> > > you don't provide an offline installer too.
> > >  
> > >  ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Ionescu
> > >  To: ReactOS Development List
> > >  Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:56 PM
> > >  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 1294 [dreimer] Fix clean for cmake trees. ...
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  Why separate installers for x64/ARM?
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  Just do what every software company this side of the century does: a 400kb installer
> > > which lets you select the packages you want, and downloads them.
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  --
> > >  Best regards,
> > >  Alex Ionescu
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  On 2011-06-03, at 11:38 AM, Zachary Gorden wrote:
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  Spoke with Amine and Daniel.  I've agreed to the lesser evil of bundling the FULL
> > > cmake.  Reasons are if we want the BE to be flexible enough to be used for more than just
> > > building ROS, we can't gimp cmake with the belief that no one will need the things we
> > > didn't include.  This is again on Windows.  I remain uninvolved with decisions about
> > > the Linux BE.
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> > >  
> > >  Timo Kreuzer <timo.kreuzer(a)web.de> wrote:
> > >  
> > >  My vote on this:
> > >  CMake: bundle it, optional on installation
> > >  x64/arm: create individual installers
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  * CMake: bundle it, go for the (minimal) version without an installer. It's nothing
> > > "exotic" to install after all, just put it together with the other utilities in
> > > RosBE.
> > >  
> > >  * x64/arm: If build tool sizes are staying like this, create individual installers. Just
> > > for testing, I'll try an x86/x64 multilib build of Binutils and GCC though, would be
> > > nice to know how much smaller it is compared to separate x86 and x64 compilers.
> > >  
> > >  So in general, I agree with Timo :-)
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  - Colin
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