Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub

[David Quintana (gigaherz)]

No one said we don't need a plan B. We had a plan B before moving to
github.
In fact, the move to github only happened because people were assured we'd
always have a plan B.
Why? Because github's servers are in the US, and many of the dev team
didn't like the idea to put our sources in US computers.

I will proceed to ignore everything after your first line, because it's
mindless paranoia.

You do have a point about the issues, except we don't host them on github,
so only the Pull Requests would remain, and i'm 100% sure if github becomes
hostile, we'll have plenty time to make a copy of the data.

[I was typing that and the power blinked off long enough to shut down my pc
¬¬]

On 5 June 2018 at 19:43, M. Ziggyesque <ziggyesque(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>   No, I don't see it as pointless to have a plan B.
> It's more a question of
>  when, not if, it's desirable, given past practices.
>
>  Even with no immediate changes, github can no longer be considered
>  vendor-neutral. Down the road, as example, M$ may well try to require every
>  project adopt their code-signing policy or the project gets deleted, so
>  they get their kickbacks on all the certificate fees that would entail. ROS
>  doesn't require code-signing?? DELETE!! They did similar when they bought
>  out sysinternals, bloated all their utilities with certificates, so that's
>  a distinct possibility.
>
>  While migrating the repo itself is easy, the issues list and other history
>  is less so, plus the hassle of getting links on external pages to redirect
>  to a new home; those would take some lead time so imo is better to have
>  some plan than not.
>
>  ------ Original message------
>  *From: *David Quintana (gigaherz)
>  *Date: *Tue, Jun 5, 2018 4:40 AM
>  *To: *ReactOS Development List;
>  *Cc: *
>  *Subject:*Re: [ros-dev] Microsoft acquires GitHub
>
>  To elaborate further:
>
>     1. The deal won't be closed for many months (they expect december)
>     2. Microsoft probably won't change github at first (xcept maybe make
>     the login integrate with a Microsoft Account)
>     3. We don't know what they plan to do with the platform in the long
>     term, so worrying now is pointless.
>     4. We don't know that it will EVER be hostile toward ReactOS, even if
>     they break the platform and make it unusable, so chances are we are good.
>     5. If worst comes to worst, as Thomas said, we just say goodbye to GH
>     and move elsewhere.
>
>
>
>  On 5 June 2018 at 10:36, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com
> >   wrote: 
> >   great! :)
> >
> >  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Faber <thomas.faber(a)reactos.org>
> >  wrote:
> >
> > >   To elaborate, we're not dependent on GitHub
> > > in any significant way. It's
> > >  just convenient. But if it stops being so, it's easy to go elsewhere.
> > >  That's a key part of Git, being a "distributed" VCS.
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 2018-06-05 10:31, Oleksandr Shaposhnikov wrote:
> > > >   No it may not.
> > > >
> > > >  5 черв. 2018 р. 11:24 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo < 
> > >  elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt;
> > > пише:
> > > >  
> > > >       May this affect ReactOS?
> > > >
> > > >       https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github 
> > > -empowering-developers/
> > >
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