Guys... the ROS Mailing list and IRC channels have a purpose. That I am sure about.
The mailing list should be used for long messages and lengthy and yet important discussions.
The IRC channel can be used for more "intermediate/immediate" discussions, for example how to fix that fantastic bed bug that has been there since Revision 1337 or whatever... things that are done real time.
So use them both in balance I say. :)
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 01:21:40 +1100, Olaf Siejka <caemyr@gmail.com> wrote:
Look, before you guys start venting off, please at least try to understand what are you really getting mad about. As much as you seem to hate communicating via IRC, personally i see no other way of introducing someone to ROS fundamentals, including (but not limited to):
- necessary tools
- checkout layount
- compilation commands
- vm setup
- debug setup
and many many more. I need at least 30-60 minutes to pass this information via irc, as well as get immediate feedback on any problems. But no! This undermines the purpose of THIS maillist!!!!
Dou you REALLY want me to do it via ros-dev maillist??!!!
2010/10/27 cheer_xiao
<xiaqqaix@gmail.com>
> Aagghhhhh!!! Why is everything always done over IRC????
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> The neglection of the reactos mailing lists is one of this _big_ things this
> project does wrong.
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> - It forces the community into a sort of hidden niche group and
> alienates people who don’t use IRC
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> - It gives the impression that reactos activity is low. There are
> thousands of people who follow this project aren’t on IRC and have no idea
> of what is going on.
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> - It arguably deters new people from joining because they can’t
> really get to grips with the project without becoming a slave to IRC
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> - It means important discussions are missed, even by the core team,
> if they aren’t watching the IRC chat 24/7 or miss a PM
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> I could go on and on with reasons of why you neglect the mailing lists is so
> harmful, but I fear no one will listen to my cries.
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> Maybe I should vent my frustration in IRC for the niche community, and we
> can all have an internal discussion about it???
As a undergraduate of CS I subscribed to this mailing list a year or
two ago, hoping to keep informed about what's going on within the
project, and perhaps that someday I could find something that really
interests me and help it out. But according to Ged it is quite
frustrating that most people prefer IRC, for you know, we have 24 time
zones on earth and I'm on the opposite side from most people on this
project. The IRC is also potentially making the project
time-zone-restricted.
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