Re: [ros-dev] Networking

[Kamil Hornicek]

On the other hand discussing things in realtime has its advantages. 
As for IRC being hidden and alientating people. You can say the same thing about the ML. I
for one feel better talking to niche group of people than to a public list where I
don't even know if the people I need to talk to are subscribed. Also if someone is
able to subscribe to the ML I'm sure he can handle IRC. I'm not saying everything
should be done over IRC but I'm saying it's pretty useful.

Where I see the real problem: any post to ML gets an instant "join IRC" reply. I
think we can and should do better than that. If someone posts here we should keep it
here.

Kamil
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ged Murphy 
  To: 'ReactOS Development List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Networking


  Aagghhhhh!!! Why is everything always done over IRC????

   

  The neglection of the reactos mailing lists is one of this _big_ things this project
does wrong.

   

  -          It forces the community into a sort of hidden niche group and alienates
people who don't use IRC

  -          It gives the impression that reactos activity is low. There are thousands of
people who follow this project aren't on IRC and have no idea of what is going on.

  -          It arguably deters new people from joining because they can't really get
to grips with the project without becoming a slave to IRC

  -          It means important discussions are missed, even by the core team, if they
aren't watching the IRC chat 24/7 or miss a PM

   

  I could go on and on with reasons of why you neglect the mailing lists is so harmful,
but I fear no one will listen to my cries.

  Maybe I should vent my frustration in IRC for the niche community, and we can all have
an internal discussion about it???

   

  Ged.

   

   

   

   

  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
Aleksey Bragin
  Sent: 27 October 2010 13:54
  To: ReactOS Development List
  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Networking

   

  Yes, please feel free to join our channel when you have any questions. I will create a
branch for your coming work, if you like.

   

  Thanks!

   

   

  WBR,

  Aleksey.

   

  On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Olaf Siejka wrote:





  Hiya

   

  Discussing issues on ros-dev maillist is fine. I asked Aleksiej to pass you the irc
channel discussion mostly for helping you out with basic ROS stuff like compilation, VM
setup and testing issues.

   

  Regards

   

  2010/10/27 Oleg Baikalow <obaikalow(a)gmail.com>

  Hi,

  I see you're busy discussing other stuff and my message went unnoticed :) I made a
look to existing network branches, found many of them. LWIP is interesting. Alexey said
the best way is to join your irc channel. I will try to occasionally join, but in your
project, mailing list must be a primary point of discussion not irc channel.

   

  I think I start from making a simple, but robust tcpip driver (with help of numerously
available source code of tcp/ip protocol implementations). Hopefully you could give me
branch access, it's gonna be hard to develop it with patches.

   

  // Oleg Baikalow.

   

  P.S. I really like your "kernel coding style", quite rare to see that in
opensource projects. Most of foss projects utilize linux-alike stlye, whic is harder to
read and not that clean.

   

   



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