I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel being only for development talk, things should remain mostly as they are now.

In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those thigns are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk, but if you have clear rooms set for each thing, the majority of people will be happy to leave all the offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk to the dev channel.

It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no reason to be pessimistic and think that "our idiots are worse". It's simply not true.

I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get out of hand.

On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO <hermes.belusca@sfr.fr> wrote:

I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit originally #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we remove the moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may expect the same phenomenon to occur in #reactos-dev too.

 

De : Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] De la part de David Quintana (gigaherz)
Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35
À : ReactOS Development List
Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

 

I approve the idea.

 

On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <colin@reactos.org> wrote:

Hi all!

As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.

This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way to
interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate
questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some contributors
have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev.

Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students shall
submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers.
How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
exclusive club?

Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
#reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if nothing
else helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
it's fully in their hands.


Cheers,

Colin

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