Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

[Mark Jansen]

We can always try it out?
If it doesnt work, restoring it is a simple as setting a flag on the channel.

On 24 March 2017 at 16:31, David Quintana (gigaherz) <gigaherz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel
> being only for development
>  talk, things should remain mostly as they are now.
>
>  In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic
>  conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those thigns
>  are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk, but if you have clear rooms
>  set for each thing, the majority of people will be happy to leave all the
>  offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk to the dev channel.
>
>  It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no reason to
>  be pessimistic and think that "our idiots are worse". It's simply not
> true.
>
>  I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get out of
>  hand.
>
>  On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO <hermes.belusca(a)sfr.fr>
>  wrote:
> >  
> >  I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit originally
> >  #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we remove the
> >  moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may expect the same phenomenon to
> >  occur in #reactos-dev too.
> >
> >
> >
> >  De : Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de David
> >  Quintana (gigaherz)
> >  Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35
> >  À : ReactOS Development List
> >  Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public
> >
> >
> >
> >  I approve the idea.
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi all!
> >
> >  As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
> >  channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
> >  talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
> >  topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
> >  notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.
> >
> >  This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way to
> >  interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate
> >  questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
> >  maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some contributors
> >  have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev.
> >
> >  Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students shall
> >  submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers.
> >  How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
> >  exclusive club?
> >
> >  Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
> >  #reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
> >  Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
> >  too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if nothing
> >  else helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
> >  it's fully in their hands.
> >
> >
> >  Cheers,
> >
> >  Colin
> >
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