Re: [ros-dev] Roadmap I'm sticking to

[Gabriel ilardi]

I think all of us should start thinking practical, we need a working OS, not a toy or a
hobby one (if we really want an OS).
I think Aleksey expressed his wish to make a useful OS. The whole team should want a
working OS, or am I missing something here?
I'd like to ask personally James and Timo, and all the rest of the team to help
Aleksey fix the remaining bugs in Arwinss, to at least
have a more 'working' ReactOS, he did a lot of things himself, I can't imagine
what could be done with your help, 
once arwinss is 'stable' you could switch back to win32ros/amd64/etc, if you
wish.
I really like ros and the philosophy behind its goals, I'd like to see it succeed, but
in order to do it we need team work here.
I've just published the latest arwinss iso, and I can tell you this, one person tried
it and he said in the main channel: 
"...yeah...i just play around, but the "real windows" feeling enhanced in
this release strong - this is my opinion"
We need applications to work, if ROS gets useful, it will attract more people, and more
people will attract more publicity and more developers, and this is
the way to go.
Just my two cents.

Gabriel.


>   From: gedmurphy(a)gmail.com
>  To: ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:03:07 +0100
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Roadmap I'm sticking to
>  
>  I'm confused. Is this your personal roadmap or a team roadmap?
>  
>  If it's a personal roadmap then this highlights one of the main problems
>  with reactos. Everyone works as an individual with no team spirit and most
>  people work on things which are at best unimportant and at worst completely
>  useless to the v1.0 goal.
>  
>  If it's a team roadmap then aren't they supposed to be discussed and agreed
>  upon as a team instead of dictated?
>  
>  Ged.
>  
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
>  Behalf Of Aleksey Bragin
>  Sent: 08 April 2010 13:54
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: [ros-dev] Roadmap I'm sticking to
>  
>  	Hello,
>  yesterday we had a usual rant in #reactos-dev regarding organization,  
>  teaming and development issues, and I explained how I see it. I think  
>  explaining and discussing here would be beneficial.
>  
>  I won't spend your time explaining how I came to this roadmap, I will  
>  go right to it. This roadmap is mainly usage-oriented and doesn't  
>  cover the kernel (it has its own one).
>  
>  * Finish wine-based subsystem ("arwinss"), fixing all internal  
>  (absent in Wine and/or trunk) bugs.
>  Milestone 1: user32 and gdi32 known to work and support at least all  
>  the apps listed in the Wine app compat database.
>  * Test as many as possible apps known to work in Wine and determine  
>  those which fail.
>  * Fix failing components (kernel32, ntdll, kernel, CSR, non-synced  
>  DLLs, etc).
>  Milestone 2: ReactOS supporting quite wide amount of applications,  
>  including major apps like MS Office suites, Open Office, CAD systems,  
>  Adobe products.
>  Decision point: Because other Win32 components are proven to work, NT- 
>  alike user32, gdi32 and win32k development may be boosted, testing  
>  simplified.
>  * Implement filesystem drivers, using fastfat_new as a universal  
>  skeleton for FS drivers. Use ntfs3g library and that skeleton to  
>  develop an NTFS IFS driver.
>  Milestone 3: ReactOS with NTFS support (quite important for end  
>  users, thus separated into a standalone milestone).
>  * Total rewrite of networking, using NT's one as a model.
>  Milestone 4: ReactOS with a rock-stable networking. Ability to host  
>  database servers, web and FTP servers.
>  * Release 1.0 and profit ;)
>  
>  
>  So that's what I'm sticking to so far. I don't expect everyone to  
>  agree, but if more people are involved, achieving these milestones  
>  will happen faster. Also, they don't really have to go in a sequence,  
>  all of that may be done simulteneously (e.g. filesystem drivers must  
>  be developed against Windows 2003; kernel32 and ntdll could be fixed  
>  first using winetests without waiting for arwinss to be complete;  
>  networking could be again tested in existing ReactOS and Windows).
>  
>  Comments, improvements are welcome.
>  
>  WBR,
>  Aleksey Bragin.
>  
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