Re: [ros-dev] Win32 subsystem in 2013

[Richard Campbell]

I'll go out on a limb here and agree with James Tabor to some extent.  I've
been saying this for quite a while.  While ARWINSS is technically
interesting, i feel that with limited developer choices, ReactOS should be
focused on developing a usable, stable platform.  Focus on any target!
 Windows XP, Windows 7 (7 is typically a good target as app support won't
be going away for a while, however Windows XP is good as well), etc. and
make it work..and look... great.  Make it usable for the every day user,
even if it's still alpha quality.  You do that, you'll not only get
developer backing, but have the satisfaction of having been a part of one
of the biggest achievements an open source project has ever accomplished.

Note that the statement I have previously mentioned doesn't technically
EXCLUDE ARWINSS...but rather I'm saying to zero in on a specific version of
Wine, fork it, optimize it for ReactOS, plug it in, and focus on the bigger
problems...like the fact that AMD Catalyst drivers won't install/run.

As some of you well know i've been following (and in some instances in the
long past, contributing to) ReactOS.  I just want to see it work.  I want
to see it succeed sometime in my lifetime.  The journey has been
incredible, but i'd like to see it really take off.  The only way it's
going to get there is to draw in user interest.  Do any of you know exactly
how long this project has been under development?  I do...i've been with
it...and following it...for a VERY long time.  Hell, when i first started
following this project, i was on dialup and a 386!  I was a teenage for
crying out loud!  Now i am am 31 years old, I have a wife and two daughters
and this project still continues forward.  Incredible stuff!

If ReactOS were to get to that 'usable' phase, it wouldn't be that hard to
get REAL funding to tackle some of the hard stuff...like staying up to date
with the latest versions of Windows.

Thanks for reading my rant!
Richard Campbell


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:21 PM, BinSys <binsys(a)163.com> wrote:

>  
>  I have always insisted that ReactOS should be fully compatible with
>  WINDOWS and work towards, rather than the introduction of other things.
>  ReactOS This is my concern and willingness to contribute rather than the
>  sole reason of other open-source items like WINE.
>  Even I think that the introduction of WINE is not a right decision. (By
>  Google Translate)
>
>  Regards,
>  BinSys
>
>
>  At 2013-12-31 01:05:07,"James Tabor" <jimtabor.rosdev(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >  Things I like about arwinss...
> >
> > I call SWM winman.c window manager, SWiM, due to it reminds me of
> > swimming through a list of windows. Studding this code for months,
> > leaving no stone unturned.
> >
> > On 12/30/13, Aleksey Bragin <aleksey(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> > >   Thanks, I thought I would end up talking to
> > > myself :-)
> > >
> > >  Well, I totally eliminated X11 out of Wine. It was not that hard really,
> > >  nearly all good code was in place already, the only thing which I had to
> > >  develop was a very small "window manager". Literally, which would manage
> > >  list of windows in the current window station and desktop, and issue
> > >  redraw messages when certain window gets focus.
> > >
> > >  "A little flame never killed nobody"
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >  Aleksey 
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