I don't agree. Maintain the auto-voice lists and get someone in charge of operations, like I used to be for many years on IRC.

Instead, why not create a #reactos-gsoc or something?

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Mark Jansen <learn0more+ros@gmail.com> wrote:

We can always try it out?
If it doesnt work, restoring it is a simple as setting a flag on the channel.

On 24 March 2017 at 16:31, David Quintana (gigaherz) <gigaherz@gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel being only for development
> talk, things should remain mostly as they are now.
>
> In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic
> conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those thigns
> are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk, but if you have clear rooms
> set for each thing, the majority of people will be happy to leave all the
> offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk to the dev channel.
>
> It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no reason to
> be pessimistic and think that "our idiots are worse". It's simply not true.
>
> I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get out of
> hand.
>
> On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO <hermes.belusca@sfr.fr>
> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit originally
>> #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we remove the
>> moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may expect the same phenomenon to
>> occur in #reactos-dev too.
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] De la part de David
>> Quintana (gigaherz)
>> Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35
>> À : ReactOS Development List
>> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public
>>
>>
>>
>> I approve the idea.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <colin@reactos.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
>> channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
>> talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
>> topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
>> notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.
>>
>> This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way to
>> interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate
>> questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
>> maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some contributors
>> have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev.
>>
>> Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students shall
>> submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers.
>> How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
>> exclusive club?
>>
>> Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
>> #reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
>> Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
>> too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if nothing
>> else helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
>> it's fully in their hands.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Colin
>>
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