18 Jan
2012
18 Jan
'12
12:27 p.m.
Old, but relevant in today's world. Let's face it... the mainline
kernel is getting huge.
Let's have a look at the update:
*"One thing that I forgot to mention, but which
is critical to the
success of Linux, is that there really is no such thing as monolithic
"Linux." Linux is highly modular and can be trimmed down/beefed up to
fit a wide variety of applications...on the developers' terms, not
Red Hat's, Novell's, Canonical's, etc. *
"on the *developers'* terms" - this effectively means "on the terms of
who wrote the software" - not "on the user's terms" - so you'll
still
get some bloated distros out there. And who says Linux is getting
smaller?
*So, unlike Windows, which can only be what Microsoft dictates, Linux
can truly be all things to all people, as "fat" or as "skinny" as the
developer wants it to be. Ubuntu is obese compared to sub-100 KB
uClinux distributions, for example. Both serve different, and useful,
purposes."*
Again, "*as the developer wants it to be*" - And yes, this goes for
Windows too. Microsoft probably wants it to be bloated, so it makes it
bloated.
Though I can agree with "So, unlike Windows, which can only be what
Microsoft dictates, ..." - but bear in mind that when it comes
to Windows then Microsoft is the developer anyway. It's on the
developers' terms.
I'd love to see the kernel uClinux uses... I reckon it's not the
mainline kernel, but a modified version of it. Again... it's up to the
*developer* as the quote above mentioned.
Just go over to http://kernel.org/ - the source code for the Linux
*kernel* in *compressed* form is 74MB plus! And that is compressed by
the way. You'd need to have a very stripped down kernel to the max.
Which would have been fine if it was "highly modular" as it is claimed.
Personally I'm happy seeing ReactOS the way it is going and I think
they're taking the right direction. The last thing ReactOS needs is to
listen to some kid going about some super fantastic UI (or other
Linux-specific feature) present in Linux and attempting to say it should
be in ReactOS as an "improvement" of some sort.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:25:47 +0100
Ameen Ross <a.ross(a)amdev.eu> wrote:
> Uh, that's strange...
> Not only is that old news, I wonder whether you've read TFA. It has
> an update at the bottom:
*"One thing that I forgot to mention, but which
is critical to the
success of Linux, is that there really is no such thing as monolithic
"Linux." Linux is highly modular and can be trimmed down/beefed up to
fit a wide variety of applications...on the developers' terms, not
Red Hat's, Novell's, Canonical's, etc. *
*So, unlike Windows, which can only be what Microsoft dictates, Linux
can truly be all things to all people, as "fat" or as "skinny" as the
developer wants it to be. Ubuntu is obese compared to sub-100 KB
uClinux distributions, for example. Both serve different, and useful,
purposes."*
>
>
> That being said, I love ReactOS and I sure hope that it will actually
> be viable in the near future. From there on I'm expecting the same
> kind of exponential growth (initially) as Linux has seen. In
> technical terms that is.
>
> Op 17-1-2012 12:02, Adam schreef:
> > Given the way Linux is going at the moment (see
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10358024-16.html for example) I
> > think I do not think those expectations will be too high in the near
> > future. ;)
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:10:54 +0100
> > Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo<elhoir(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "our kernel to be better than Linux"
> >>
> >> ugh... high expectations, indeed! :) that would be the ultimante
> >> push for ReactOS!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Aleksey
> >> Bragin<aleksey(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is something interesting for me in all these (both webOS and
> >>> Android).
> >>> Kernel is just a kernel, I'm more interested in the higher level
> >>> framework, and that's what could be theoretically used atop of
> >>> ReactOS. However all of these are just speculations, first of all
> >>> we need our kernel to be better than Linux in that case.
> >>>
> >>> WBR,
> >>> Aleksey.
> >>>
> >>> On 11.01.2012 17:49, Igor Paliychuk wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> WebOS is Linux-based OS and i don't think it can be more
usefull
> >>>> in ReactOS development than any other Linux distro.
> >>>> It's very good that we got new open source OS but this should
not
> >>>> turn into promoting another OS in ReactOS dev mailing list.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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