Hi!
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
It's becoming impossible for me to keep some components synced with Wine. For some components, we have too many changes in our tree which were not submitted to Wine. I've tried to submit some of "our" changes, but was unable to answer questions asked by the Wine people, since I simply do not have enough knowledge of those particular DLLs. The original (ReactOS) authors of the changes are not interested or currently unable to answer either.
HOOOO! I'm trying REAL HARD MAINTAINING CONTROL OF MY COMMENTS!!!!! OH! It hurt to be nice right now! AAAHHHH!
So, the following components are now effectively forked:
- tools/widl
I'm at a loss, this was a ROS and Wine project, how did this run away from us?
- lib/dinput
Don't know about this one.
- lib/setupapi
same here.
- lib/winmm
It never been synced.
Alex Ionescu wrote:
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
I am not going to work on the other ones anymore. If the authors can't be bothered to help get their changes in Wine
I wouldn't blame the authors for WINE's ultra-conservative app-based developement strategy. I woudln't blame WINE either; that's been their development process for years and since they seem to be sucesful (for now), it would be fair to say that their strategy is working. Whether it pays off or not, is too premature to say.
Yelling and screaming!
I can't be bothered to spend time on it either.
I agree. Our implementation of setupapi is clearly more advanced and cleaner then WINE's. They are the ones on the losing side, unless they choose to somehow accomodate us. I've never liked the policy of "if you want WINE changes, we spend time and make ROS accept them. If WINE wants ROS changes, we spend time and make WINE accept them". It seems
More yelling and screaming!
counterproductive. WINE should get a guy to sync ROS changes as well, and have a process to make sure they get accepted. It seems silly to require a real-world application. Of COURSE there is one...or else why would the API be exported? Sure, there might be only three applications in the world, but it doesn't mean they don't exist. And finding 3 applications out of the billions that exist is worse then finding a needle in a hay stack. If you don't care about three apps, then you run into a dangerous slippery slope. Who decides the number of apps you're willing to sacrifice? 3? 30? 300? If you start sacrificing apps here and there, the number grows exponentially.
We have to maintain backward compatibility, btw.
Gé.
Best Regards, Alex Ionescu
8^, I feel your frustration, James
PS. My yelling comments are not pointed @ any Ros developers.