Re: [ros-dev] My attitude

[Kai Moonbourn]

"Does the same thing but isn't from Microsoft" seems to be a pretty
effective pitch these days....

On 12/5/05, Andrew Silver Blade Greenwood <lists(a)silverblade.co.uk> wrote:
>  
>  Then we must ensure that our brand name is more valuable.
>
>  TwoTailedFox wrote:
>
> >  The Brand Name they're buying is worth the
> > fee
> >
> > On 12/5/05, Richard Campbell <eek2121(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I'll disagree with this, Dell pays money for copies of the Windows
> > >Operating System, if a free, open source compatible clone were to come
> > >along, i think they'd jump on it in a heartbeat.
> > >
> > >TwoTailedFox wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Dell I can't see as being agreeable loading a direct Windows
> > >>Replacement, when most of their computers are shipped with Windows.
> > >>They'd see a sizeable portion of their income dropped, if Microsoft
> > >>decided to pull out of it.
> > >>
> > >>IBM is currently being lobbied to make OS/2 Open-Source.. maybe WINE
> > >>and ReactOS should chip in to that petition?
> > >>
> > >>On 12/5/05, David Hinz <post.center(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I think we might have good chances that IBM will help us, especially
> > >>>with the OS/2 subsystem. And if they still had their PC-branch, I 
> would
> >  >>>guarantee they would help us, just to
> > show MS that nobody depends on
> > >>>them, but unfortunately they don't have it anymore...
> > >>>Anyway, I think IBM, Intel and maybe companys like Dell should be 
> worth
> >  >>>a try.
> > >>>
> > >>>Greets,
> > >>>
> > >>>David Hinz
> > >>>
> > >>>Magnus Olsen schrieb:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Nivida will not agree on GPL licen for there drv
> > >>>>linux people have try getting GPL drv from nivida and the answers 
> have
> >  >>>>always be no.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>From: "TwoTailedFox" <twotailedfox(a)gmail.com>
> > >>>>To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
> > >>>>Sent: den 5 December 2005 21:18
> > >>>>Subject: Re: [ros-dev] My attitude
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>I can see IBM supporting us, since their last Good OS, OS/2, is now
> > >>>>>efectively dead. I don't see some companies like Sun, or Novell,
> > >>>>>supporting us, since they already have a vested interest in an
> > >>>>>Operating System
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>What I'd really like to see are Hardware Manufacturers getting
>  behind
> >  >>>>>us. Realtek, nVIDIA, ATi,
> > Intel, AMD, VIA, etc, could all be
> > >>>>>approached, and ask for collaboration on writing GPL Drivers 
> (Although
> >  >>>>>nVIDIA is notoriously
> > skeptical about open-source)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>On 12/5/05, David Hinz <post.center(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Maybe we could get a big company as a sponsor?
> > >>>>>>I think, if we wrote to some companys like maybe IBM or so, we
>  might
> >  >>>>>>find some good sponsors,
> > who could maybe even provide us some full 
>  time
> >  >>>>>>coders. And this could
> > really increase development speed.
> > >>>>>>But maybe they just want to help us out with some software or who
>  knows
> >  >>>>>>what. We just have to ask
> > and we will get an answer.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Greets,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>David Hinz
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Casper Hornstrup schrieb:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>OTOH, I think there needs to be better project management
> > and a
> > >>>>>>>>cooperation mentality, something akin to a real start-up
> > software
> > >>>>>>>>company. I have this dream where everyone is using Visual
> > Studio 
>  Team
> >  >>>>>>>>System and writing
> > patches for bug reports, using peer-review,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>managing
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>>meetings, doing nightly test builds, filling out test
> > cases.... 
>  but
> > > >  >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>I'm
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>>>sure that would put many people off. (even though it would cut
> > > > >>>>>>development time by a year at least)
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>Best regards,
> > > > >>>>>>Alex Ionescu
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Can you get Microsoft to donate licenses for VSTS to all ReactOS
> > > > >>>>>developers? ;-)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Casper
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>_______________________________________________
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> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>_______________________________________________
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> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>--
> > > > >>>"I had a handle on life, but then it broke"
> > > > >>>
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
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