14 Sep
2007
14 Sep
'07
5:16 p.m.
Hi!
Alexandru Lovin wrote:
Hello everyone,
Aleksey suggested that I discuss this here, on the mailing list.
First and foremost, these are enhancements to do for later, much later
(what I would want for the next release is support for RAID / SCSI
controllers). But I know that a developer doesn't actually keep
something in his plans unless he's figured out a way to do it.
I will paste and add additional comments to each of my suggestions.
1. Compatibility with every version of Windows, from Vista until Windows
3.1 / 3.11
WOW
That means applications written for 3.1 should work
flawlessly on
ReactOS, just like apps written for any other Windows. This is probably
not hard, as at least XP does the same thing.
However, drivers for Windows 3.1 most probably do not work. If the user
actually has hardware that was left unsupported since 3.1, he should be
able to use it.
The same goes for the combination Vista-only driver / old Windows '95 or
Windows 3.1 application.
WOW
oiaohm said it's not really possible because VxD
drivers are not well
documented. So, maybe in the distant future, maybe when Linux devs will
have reversed VxD's on their own. Just don't forget this.
2. Compatibility with DOS**
This will probably not mean DOS drivers, as probably any hardware with
DOS drivers also has some sort of Windows drivers. It would only mean
application compatibility. However, applications with direct access to
hardware will probably have to remain used from within DOS (e.g. BIOS
update software). The major thing are games here. The ideal way to run
DOS games is:
- anything requested by the game is interpreted and passed on to the ROS API
- Glide commands are interpreted and passed on to OpenGL or Direct3D,
resulting in maybe a better image quality, via the use of features
OpenGL has and Glide doesn't.
- software rendering requested by games should be interpreted and passed
on to OpenGL or Direct3D, again resulting in a better image quality.
Of course, this will probably result in a compatibility layer, like you
suggested.
- redbook audio commands should be passed on to ReactOS, who will read
in analog mode or digital mode, depending on what the ROS global
settings are for that specific optical drive.
My own thing about Descent, quickly: the game tries to access file "
1.midi" but ReactOS plays "1.mp3". I have all the mp3's and will
provide
them whenever needed in order to make this happen. This will transform
the old Descent for DOS in the CD version, that had redbook audio tracks.
Such enhancements were also created for Tomb Raider 1, by Paul that
created Glidos ( www.glidos.net <http://www.glidos.net> ). Please see
http://www.glidos.net/retext.html?lang=en and
http://www.glidos.net/audio.html?lang=en
Whenever Tomb Raider 1 asked for certain textures / audio data, it was
"hijacked" or "redirected" to the better textures or audio files.
Certainly, this DOS compatibility layer would probably need a
Glidos-like application to control various specific settings from
various DOS applications.
Another DOS related thing would be a command prompt (terminal?) in
ReactOS that has drag'n'drop, copy and paste functionality.
Still oiaohm: for the distant future. Got it, understood it, I just want
to convince you to keep it in your plans. oiaohm even said a
compatibility layer already exists.
3. Processors as a devices, in Device Manager *
*
For example, let's say a PC has a Pentium 4 at 3 GHz, with
HyperThreading. Windows XP reports this processor as two identical ones
in Device Manager. ReactOS should also do that. Apart from Windows, if
the user does a right-click on a processor as a device, in the Device
Manager tree, and chooses the Properties page of the processor device,
that page should also mention the SPEED of the processor. More than
that, it would be a blessing to also see the L1, L2 and L3 cache size,
FSB and multiplier, like those SiSoft Sandra / Everest applications
report. Maybe even further, the instruction sets supported - MMX,
3DNow!, SSE, etc.
oiaohm again: can be done, but not right now. Stability and usability
beat extra information. Got it, too. Bug 2644.
4. Clustering
I discussed this with oiaohm and he said it's doable, as soon as ROS
gets Active Directory Server. Only clustered in terms of processing
power, the user has more machines in a cluster and he still sees ROS the
normal way, it just works faster because there are more processors
available. No hard drives in some sort of JBOD, and 3D data is only
handled by the "master" machine(otherwise you need about 10 GB/sec
between machines), the one the user actually interacts with. This is
what he said would be the limitations.
I have other details for this, but since it's very far away, it wouldn't
make sense to bring them up right now.
5. Driver extraction tool
I already got one, DoubleDriver, that backs up the drivers for devices
in the device manager. I was thinking about the hardware that only gets
drivers from Windows Publisher (like my MSI Starkey 2.0). Users would
need one.
Again, oiaohm said replicating a freeware tool is not high on the list.
I'm fine with that.
6. A Windows Media Center equivalent
**WMC doesn't do much. Just lists program schedules, can do scheduled
recordings, is able to duplicate streams so that you may record whatever
you're watching. It stops suddenly while doing a "record once" capture,
when it should have waited for the user to say stop (it happened on
Vista Home Premium, on a HP laptop). It has a "touchscreen" kind of
interface, that would probably be great on an actual touchscreen, works
ok when using a PC remote control, but is kind of stupid when using the
mouse. It can record from one channel and let you watch another channel
if you have at least two TV tuners in your computer. Naturally, ROS
should do this with "n" TV tuners.
It doesn't have composite or S-video capturing, like the vast majority
of TV tuner software out there. It only captures in Microsoft's special
"Microsoft recorded TV Show" format, extension .dvr-ms I think (no AVI
capture, no mpg capture). It won't let you specify how the tuner
provides sound from the antenna/cable signal to the sound card (PCI
audio, internal cable, external cable, and if any of the last two, what
sound card channel it is). While watching, it should be easier to find
out what channel you're on, and what the time is, via some sort of OSD
(on-screen display) that appears when you move the mouse or something,
just like in WMC. The recording should not be affected by this (i.e. the
OSD shouldn't show up on the recording if you moved the mouse, again
just like in WMC). While watching, it's not possible (or at least not
easy) to jump directly to a specific channel, it may only be used as a
TV (next channel, next channel...). If the user tries to switch channels
while recording, he gets "warning, you're recording, if you switch
channels it's going to stop, you want that?" It should just stop, or at
least let the user specify that he doesn't want to see that message
again somehow. It doesn't let the user specify exactly the framerate,
video size, video standard...just the country of origin. And, as an
example, Romania officially uses the PAL D standard on "air" broadcast,
that you can get with an antenna. But cable providers use PAL B, which
is the German official standard. So, in WMC a guy with cable from
Romania must say he's from Germany or else he won't hear anything!
All of these should be properly implemented in ReactOS Media Center.
Apart from them, "ROSMC" should have all the deinterlacing options and
deinterlacing-method autodetection routines from Dscaler. That program
also offers a whole lot of other image improvement things, like a good
enough TV station logo killer and image de-noising that actually works.
Even better than Dscaler, REMEMBER the settings the next time the user
runs the program. Maybe also provide the user with basic video editing
functionality, meaning most of the features from VirtualDub (the one I
find most important is the ability to edit a film with "direct stream
copy", meaning it just copies the video and/or audio stream, it doesn't
re-encode it. Edit as in cutting parts of the film. In this scenario,
the ability to go frame by frame is also very useful).
And since it's the Media Center and not the Media Player, this should be
the application that rips audio cd's or audio dvd's.
Most of all, it should be "cluster-aware." Regardless of ROS being
cluster aware or not, this one should be.
oiaohm said this is not your job, but a job for other projects. He
pointed me to MediaPortal. I e-mailed all of them (Virtualdub, Dscaler
and MediaPortal) but I doubt they'll combine the three projects. Still,
that's why John User still buys Windows. Linux is all over the Internet
(docs all over forums, drivers all over sites, applications all over
sites as well). Instead, Linux has "cool" stuff like "mousespedometa"
(measures the speed with which you move the mouse). Some people don't
even have Internet to get what they need (X servers, for instance). To
be a Windows alternative, it should contain a lot of things Windows has.
7. Running on 16-bit systems like 286/386/486 in a "ReactOS Essentials"
(equivalent to a stripped-down XP) mode *
*
It should be the same operating system, but in 16-bit mode only. That's
an ideal scenario and I'm sure it cannot be done no matter how good the
programmers are. So, what can someone do on a 286 ? Listen to mp3's ? No
way. Listen to audio CD's, yes, and hopefully digital playback, too.
Watch TV ? Yes, if the user can find an ISA TV tuner (ATI made such
tuners, but they required a PCI ATI video card, and if you have PCI why
not get a better tuner?). Record TV shows ? Not on that kind of
computer. Browse the internet ? That may be possible, with some really
outdated, 16-bit browser, like the Internet Explorer for Windows 3.1.
And I don't know how many sites will work on it. Play games ? Yes,
either old DOS or Windows 3.1 ones or the ones that come with ReactOS,
written in 16-bit especially for this mode. Join a hive as either master
or slave ? Hopefully it will be possible, but probably in the year 2015
at least. Use office applications ? Sure, if the user can find that last
Microsoft Office or maybe Microsoft Works version compatible with
Windows 3.1. Run a web server ? I know a guy who had a server running on
a 386 system, on Windows 3.11. So yes, it is possible, only I don't know
what software he used to actually serve the data. Act as a router ?
Again, hopefully. That is, if the entire network is on 10 megabit,
because I don't think there are ISA 100 megabit network cards (ISA
bandwith is not enough). 2D graphics ? It was possible in Windows 3.1,
why not ? Maybe the first Photoshop versions actually were 16-bit. 3D
graphics ? The first 3D Studio Max (that is, 3D Studio) was for DOS
only. That probably means 16-bit right from the start, and that should
mean yes, you can do it, with the DOS compatibility layer. Web design ?
If you can find a 16-bit application, yes.
A separate ReactOS for 16-bit only, or just all the 16-bit functionality
included in the normal ReactOS ? Things look better when it works out of
the box, but it's a waste of space to include applications written for
16-bit only. People that really need the 16-bit version will not mind
paying extra attention to actually download this one and not the normal
one. Besides that, ReactOS is free. And the presence of such a version
would mean a selfless devotion to people. An act of charity for real.
Allowing people to use their computers and do as many modern things as
possible on them.
An open source Windows 3.11 with better compatibility and adherence to
standards. Compatible with all the 9x and ME. Has been tried in Free Win
95, oiaohm said "dead and staying that way" about it, but maybe VxD
documentation and whatever else you would need will appear (or be
reverse engineered by someone). Once a bigger effort will be done, the
missing info is probably easier to uncover.
Those are my suggestions. They are not for now, they are not easy to do,
etc. Just don't discard them, please.
Alex
Well that is allot! I like ideas too! But~ need more developers here. The
best we will do for now is NT/2k/Xp/2k3/V. Downward compatibility is WOW and
we don't have WOW. If you want! Come and help us.
Now for win311,,, Take FreeDOS and Wine 16 bit retool the wine code base it on
information from "Undocumented Windows by A. Schulman, D. Maxey and M. Pietrek".
You will have a good project there! I would like to play with that but~ I have
to much right now.
Thanks,
James