Re: [ros-dev] Pale Moon drops ReactOS support

[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

And, ROS is not complete yet. Isnt it more reliable to try to get it stable
for NT5, then shitch to NT6?

If we change now, we are leaving things undone.... and we will leave them
again when switching to NT7, and so.....

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>   isnt this a project to "revive WinXP/2k3"?
>
>  i think there is no need to upgrade to NT6...
>
>  Yes, we will get outdated, but if we revive NT5, probably ROS can get that
>  support back. Not for XP, but ReactOS. And XP/2k3 apps will work again,
>  with us
>
>  On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ged Murphy &lt;gedmurphy.maillists(a)gmail.com
> >   wrote: 
> >   It might be worth putting a doc together listing
> > the kernel parts we’re
> >  missing, the areas which need changes, and the areas which can be left
> >  as-is.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  *From:* Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> >  Jansen
> >  *Sent:* 12 May 2016 18:14
> >  *To:* ReactOS Development List &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt;
> >  *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Pale Moon drops ReactOS support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  For the features where this is possible without kernel support,
> >
> >  there is a mechanism in the pipeline that makes this possible: 'apphelp'
> >
> >  Currently I am still working on the base layer,
> >
> >  but when that is progressed a bit more we could integrate it more tightly
> >  in the Ldr,
> >
> >  so that it uses the target platform to apply automatic fixes (shims).
> >
> >
> >
> >  Having said that, it might be worth to upgrade parts of the kernel (only
> >  where it makes sense) to NT6 already,
> >
> >  without exposing that to applications.
> >
> >  Especially in new parts, as it would mean that something is written for
> >  NT5 now, and first thing we do next is upgrade it to NT6.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Zachary Gorden &lt;drakekaizer666(a)gmail.com&gt;
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  Quite a few 'userland' features of NT6 requires kernel support to
> >  function properly. If we go in, it would be, do NT6 kernel and slowly
> >  bring the userland up to NT6. But we don't have a fully working NT5
> >  kernel yet, so....
> >
> >
> >  On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:34 AM, David Quintana (gigaherz)
> >  &lt;gigaherz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > >   If we do NT6, we may want to have latest NT6
> > > instead of trying to stick 
> >  to
> > >   an older one and having the same deprecation
> > > issue in a couple years?
> > >
> > >  Also, what about the "idea" of keeping the majority of the kernel and 
> > large
> > >   part of the usermode NT5, but having
> > > compatibility profiles that
> > >  implement/emulate NT6 API functions using the existing NT5 feature set? 
> >  Is
> > >   that unrealistic?
> > >
> > >  On 12 May 2016 at 14:39, Aleksey Bragin &lt;aleksey(a)reactos.org&gt; wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Which again brings in the topic of updating the version we are 
> >  targeting.
> > >  > Windows 7 would be a minimum target these
> > > days, IMO.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Aleksey Bragin
> > > >
> > > > On 12.05.2016 14:04, Ged Murphy wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah it's nonsense. No one drops support for ReactOS, they drop 
> > support
> > >  >> for
> > > >> older versions of Windows which likely includes reactos too.
> > > >> If they were adding in ReactOS specific code, they were doing it 
> >  wrong.
> > >  >>
> > > >> The bigger issue here is that a lot of apps are starting to drop 
> >  support
> > > >  > for
> > > > > XP and recommend a minimum of Win7. If we don't do something about our
> > > > > insistence on sticking with 2k3, we'll soon be in a position where no
> > > > > browsers will run on ros, as well as a whole other list of apps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ged.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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