RE: [ros-dev] More RBuild issues...

[Casper Hornstrup]

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.com [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Alex
> Ionescu
>  Sent: 29. maj 2005 20:46
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] More RBuild issues...
>  
>  Ge van Geldorp wrote:
>  
> > >  From:
> > > Casper Hornstrup
> > >
> > > Rsym should strip the stabs symbols. What do you need more?
> > >
> > >  
> > Thinking about it, I believe the difference between the before-rbuild and
> > after-rbuild situation is that before, stabs symbols would be stripped (for
> > both DBG := 0 and 1) but rossym symbols (which make the symbolic stack
> > traceback possible) were only added for DBG := 1. Now, for both DBG := 0 and
> > 1, stabs symbols are stripped but rossym symbols are added even for DBG :=
> > 0. Personally I think this is a good thing, as it will allow testers to
> > report meaningfull stack traces.
> >
> >  
>  Testers shouldn't use DBG = 0 builds.... As I've said before...those
>  builds should only be for releasing to the public.
>  They require 64MB of memory to work properly in the first place, are
>  much larger, slower, etc.
>  
>  I know that Casper (and even myself) want bug reports to be sent with
>  meaningful traces, but a 30MB+ memory/disk bloat is not the way to get
>  that. As I've explained before, since we control the releases, I think
>  it's much better for us to run addr2line. Casper says this will mean
>  having hundreds of copies of the symbol files...but I don't see why. We
>  only need one per release. Then Casper says what about users that
>  compile their own versions. But I've always been told that users DON'T
>  compile their own versions, that only "Developers or testers" do. Well,
>  since I've come to agree with that, then it's clear that there isn't any
>  issue with users compiling their own version of ReactOS. As for testers
>  or developers, there's no point in using the release version, since by
>  building from SVN you're not using a "release" anymore, you're using
>  your own build, which has DBG = 1.
>  
>  I hope we can find a compromise. 
Why do I need to use DBG=1? If developers and testers use DBG=1, who will
test DBG=0?

People seem to not have a problem allocating 3-4 GB of disk space for their
Linux system. Why complain over 30MB? After 6 years of looking up symbols in
map files, I'm pretty tired of it and now ReactOS can translate the addresses
for me. Why would I want to run addr2line for every address? Why would I want
to force testers to look them up? Why wouldn't I want ReactOS to submit a
bug report containing a stack trace with translated symbols to a mailing list
when ReactOS has network capability? The rsym section can be NOLOAD so there
is no memory bloat.

Casper