packet manager

[Maarten Bosma]

Hi,

Me and some guys on the forum were thinking, about coding a packet 
manager for ROS. (http://reactos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=164) But we 
would need some kind of script language. We were also thinking about 
using XML instead of a real lang., but a real one like python would 
offer much more flexibility.

So my question is if you think about the packet manager idea and if you 
would agree to a lib like python to the tree.

Maarten Bosma
	alias Dr. Fred

[Alex Ionescu]

Maarten Bosma wrote:

>   Hi,
>
>  Me and some guys on the forum were thinking, about coding a packet 
>  manager for ROS. 
I guess you mean a Package Manager :)

>   (http://reactos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=164) But we
> would need some 
>  kind of script language. We were also thinking about using XML instead 
>  of a real lang., but a real one like python would offer much more 
>  flexibility. 
Why do you "need" a scripting language? It can be done in C, and the 
meta-data can be stored in XML and read with XML libs, some of which are 
open-source. An XML lib is something we will probably integrate into the 
tree at one point anyways.

>  
>  So my question is if you think about the packet manager idea 
I like it, I think it should be a new tab in Add/Remove programs.

>   and if you would agree to a lib like python to the
> tree. 
I think it's pretty much out of the question to have phyton code in the 
tree, or anything else but C/C++ (even C++ is barely tolerated by some 
devs).

>  
>  Maarten Bosma
>      alias Dr. Fred 

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Maarten Bosma]

Alex Ionescu wrote:

>   I guess you mean a Package Manager :) 
Yes, of
course. :)

>   An XML lib is something we will probably integrate
> into the 
>  tree at one point anyways. 
Actually we already have one. (Expat)

>   Why do you "need" a scripting language? It
> can be done in C, and the 
>  meta-data can be stored in XML and read with XML libs, some of which are 
>  open-source.  
Of course I don't want to code the program in python. But the
plans are 
not to host the binaries ourself, but to let the developers of the apps 
do that job. But each developer stores his app in a different way. This 
is why we need some kind of install script.

>   I like it, I think it should be a new tab in
> Add/Remove programs. 
We thought that we could implement it as a dll. So that I could
be there 
as well as in a stand-alone program.

Maarten Bosma
	alias Dr. Fred

[Alex Ionescu]

>   Of course I don't want to code the program in
> python. But the plans 
>  are not to host the binaries ourself, but to let the developers of the 
>  apps do that job. But each developer stores his app in a different 
>  way. This is why we need some kind of install script.
>  
I wouldn't want to see the complexities of install scripts and phyton 
brought upon the poor Windows users' souls. The developers should store 
their apps as self-extracting EXEs or installation EXEs...not a bunch of 
files that we have to code install scripts for.
All our app would have to do is 1) parse an XML tree containing 
information (like name, size, etc, maybe even a rating) and the download 
link to the exe).

>   We thought that we could implement it as a dll. So
> that I could be 
>  there as well as in a stand-alone program. 
Yes, Add/Remove Program's tabs either call upon a DLL or shellexecute an 
EXE.

>  
>  Maarten Bosma
>      alias Dr. Fred
>  
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Klemens Friedl]

>   Alex Ionescu wrote:
>
>  All our app would have to do is 1) parse an XML tree containing 
>  information (like name, size, etc, maybe even a rating) and the download 
>  link to the exe).
>   
Why do we need a program for that? I think a web (or local) HTML/XML based
application is even better for that purpose. We can use php or a XML and a
XSL File for that. Every Browser (also the Mozilla Controll) can show it.
The XML-File or Files is/are stored on the web server or local. Mozilla (and
IE) parse the XML (with XLS) and generate a dynamic app list.


Klemens Friedl <frik85>
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[Maarten Bosma]

>   I think a web (or local) HTML/XML based application is
> even better  
for that purpose.
A Linux style application offers much more comfort. For example you 
could update your system with just one click.

>   I wouldn't want to see the complexities of install
> scripts and phyton 
>  brought upon the poor Windows users' souls. 
The user would notice nothing about
that. I would be embedded into the 
program.

>   The developers should store their apps as
> self-extracting EXEs or
>  installation EXEs 
But we also want to offer the option to install from source and
to 
update. That could not be done that easy.
Also some developers just don't offer install EXEs, but only the zipped 
binaries.

>   Please detail your plans on the wiki so that progress
> can be maintained. 
Done. http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?PackageManager


Maarten Bosma
     alias Dr. Fred

[Jason Filby]

Hi

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:05:29 +0100, Maarten Bosma <Maarten.Paul(a)bosma.de> wrote:
>   Me and some guys on the forum were thinking, about
> coding a packet
>  manager for ROS. (http://reactos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=164) 
Please detail your plans on the wiki so that progress can be maintained.

Cheers
Jason