Subversion Migration Plan

[Jason Filby]

Hi all

We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:

* A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
CVS username for auditability.

* On the 30th of December 2004 our existing CVS repository will be set
to read-only and imported into Subversion (removing anything done
during the test phase in SVN).

* On the 1st of January 2005 we will be using SVN for day-to-day source control!

A wiki page describing how to use the new SVN system is here:
http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?Subversion

Thanks to Casper for all his hard work in bringing SVN online and to
Rex for maintaining CVS for so many years!

Cheers
Jason

[Alex Ionescu]

Jason Filby wrote:
> Hi all
>
> We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
>
> new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
> CVS username for auditability.
> On the 30th of December 2004 our existing CVS repository will be set
>
> to read-only and imported into Subversion (removing anything done
> during the test phase in SVN).
> On the 1st of January 2005 we will be using SVN for day-to-day source control!
>
> A wiki page describing how to use the new SVN system is here:
> http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?Subversion
>
> Thanks to Casper for all his hard work in bringing SVN online and to
> Rex for maintaining CVS for so many years!

And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still very 
active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).

http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure

Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people to 
agree, and many of us still have reservations.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Richard Campbell]

Don't have time to hop on irc, i have to get to bed BUT i believe the 
control panels should be moved to /reactos/base/applications/cpl or 
something similar.

Goodnight all.
Richard

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> Jason Filby wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> > A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
> >
> > new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> > ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> > create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
> > CVS username for auditability.
> > On the 30th of December 2004 our existing CVS repository will be set
> >
> > to read-only and imported into Subversion (removing anything done
> > during the test phase in SVN).
> > On the 1st of January 2005 we will be using SVN for day-to-day
> >
> > source control!
> >
> > A wiki page describing how to use the new SVN system is here:
> > http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?Subversion
> >
> > Thanks to Casper for all his hard work in bringing SVN online and to
> > Rex for maintaining CVS for so many years!
>
> And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
> mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
> appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still 
> very active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).
>
> http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure
>
> Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people to 
> agree, and many of us still have reservations.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
> _______________________________________________
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Steven Edwards]

Hi Alex and Richard,

--- Richard Campbell [e-mail] wrote:
> Don't have time to hop on irc, i have to get to bed BUT i believe the 
> control panels should be moved to /reactos/base/applications/cpl or 
> something similar.

I love the proposed layout. I don't want to see the cpl applets moved to applications.

Thanks
Steven

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[Mark Tempel]

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> Jason Filby wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> > A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
> >
> > new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> > ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> > create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
> > CVS username for auditability.
> > On the 30th of December 2004 our existing CVS repository will be set
> >
> > to read-only and imported into Subversion (removing anything done
> > during the test phase in SVN).
> > On the 1st of January 2005 we will be using SVN for day-to-day
> >
> > source control!
> >
> > A wiki page describing how to use the new SVN system is here:
> > http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?Subversion
> >
> > Thanks to Casper for all his hard work in bringing SVN online and to
> > Rex for maintaining CVS for so many years!
>
> And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
> mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
> appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still 
> very active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).
>
> http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure
>
> Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people to 
> agree, and many of us still have reservations.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
> _______________________________________________
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

Looks good to me.

--mark

[Richard Campbell]

Other then the cpl thing, i think it looks good...

Anyways, i should have been asleep long ago, but as usual i never made it ;)

Richard

Mark Tempel wrote:
> Alex Ionescu wrote:
> > Jason Filby wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> > > A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
> > >
> > > new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> > > ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> > > create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
> > > CVS username for auditability.
> > > On the 30th of December 2004 our existing CVS repository will be set
> > >
> > > to read-only and imported into Subversion (removing anything done
> > > during the test phase in SVN).
> > > On the 1st of January 2005 we will be using SVN for day-to-day
> > >
> > > source control!
> > >
> > > A wiki page describing how to use the new SVN system is here:
> > > http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?Subversion
> > >
> > > Thanks to Casper for all his hard work in bringing SVN online and to
> > > Rex for maintaining CVS for so many years!
> >
> > And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
> > mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
> > appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still 
> > very active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).
> >
> > http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure
> >
> > Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people 
> > to agree, and many of us still have reservations.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex Ionescu
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ros-dev mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
> Looks good to me.
>
> --mark
> _______________________________________________
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
> mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
> appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still very 
> active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).
>
> http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure

Don't you think it's a little too late to ask for comments if you 
already made a decision on IRC? This should have been discussed on the 
mailing-list _only_!
> Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people to 
> agree, and many of us still have reservations.

I can accept this structure but I don't really like it. IMO, the 
structure is too deep, for example the lib/win32 directory doesn't make 
sense to me. And I would like to move the static libraries to the lib 
directory and keep all DLLs (including .kbd and .cpl files) in a new dll 
directory. This way, our build system wouldn't need to process the lib 
directory three times (1st run: Build static libraries. 2nd run: Build 
import libraries. 3rd run: Build DLLs.)

Regards,
Eric

[Alex Ionescu]

Eric Kohl wrote:
> Alex Ionescu wrote:
> > And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
> > mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
> > appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still 
> > very active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).
> > http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure
>
> Don't you think it's a little too late to ask for comments if you 
> already made a decision on IRC? This should have been discussed on the 
> mailing-list _only_!

We have not made a decision, we are still waiting for input.
> > Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people 
> > to agree, and many of us still have reservations.
>
> I can accept this structure but I don't really like it. IMO, the 
> structure is too deep, for example the lib/win32 directory doesn't 
> make sense to me. And I would like to move the static libraries to the 
> lib directory and keep all DLLs (including .kbd and .cpl files) in a 
> new dll directory. This way, our build system wouldn't need to process 
> the lib directory three times (1st run: Build static libraries. 2nd 
> run: Build import libraries. 3rd run: Build DLLs.)

This was perfect input. lib/win32 is because we want to have 
lib/<subsys> in the future. As for static libraries, they are already in 
the /lib/static directory now...I don't understand what you meant by 
moving them. Your suggestion to move DLLs to a dll directory doesn't 
seem bad at all, I don't know why you have the impression we wouldn't 
listen. So to everyone reading the ML, is anyone objecting to this?

Really Eric, the stuff is on a WIKI, whose whole point is to be 
editable. Nobody took any decisions and is leaving anyone out of anything.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu
> Regards,
> Eric

[Hartmut Birr]

Alex Ionescu schrieb:
> And here's the new tree structure that we (the devs on IRC) have 
> mutually agreed to, with much compromise on every camp. We would 
> appreciate the input of people who don't hang around, but are still 
> very active and part of the Project (ie Hartmut, Eric, etc).
>
> http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?New_Tree_Structure
>
> Please try to be considerate, it wasn't easy getting so many people to 
> agree, and many of us still have reservations.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
> _______________________________________________

Hi,

I'm missing the current reactos/apps/utils/*.* and 
reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree in the new structure. It seems that someone 
has removed the reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree from cvs!! I agree with the 
new structure, if the archives are moved and old revisions are not lost. 
I would like it, if the library section is split in dlls and static 
libraries. The static library section  should be split in a generic part 
(independent of the mode), in a kernel mode only part and a user mode 
only part. The generic part can be included into kernel and user mode 
libraries. The mixed part (rosrtl) must be removed in the near future.

- Hartmut

[Casper Hornstrup]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Hartmut Birr
> Sent: 16. december 2004 17:19
> To: ReactOS Development List
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Subversion Migration Plan
>
> I'm missing the current reactos/apps/utils/*.* and
> reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree in the new structure. It seems 
> that someone has removed the reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree from 
> cvs!!

They are in rosapps.

Casper

[Richard Campbell]

There is a cvs2svn converter at
http://cvs2svn.subversion.org

or

svn checkout http://svn.collab.net/repos/cvs2svn/trunk cvs2svn

Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] 
> > [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Hartmut Birr
> > Sent: 16. december 2004 17:19
> > To: ReactOS Development List
> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Subversion Migration Plan
> >
> > I'm missing the current reactos/apps/utils/*.* and
> > reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree in the new structure. It seems 
> > that someone has removed the reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree from 
> > cvs!!
>
> They are in rosapps.
>
> Casper
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Casper Hornstrup]

It will be used.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Richard Campbell
> Sent: 17. december 2004 09:17
> To: ReactOS Development List
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Subversion Migration Plan
>
> There is a cvs2svn converter at
> http://cvs2svn.subversion.org
>
> or
>
> svn checkout http://svn.collab.net/repos/cvs2svn/trunk cvs2svn
>
> Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail]
> > > [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Hartmut Birr
> > > Sent: 16. december 2004 17:19
> > > To: ReactOS Development List
> > > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Subversion Migration Plan
> > >
> > > I'm missing the current reactos/apps/utils/*.* and
> > > reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree in the new structure. It seems that 
> > > someone has removed the reactos/apps/tests/*.* tree from cvs!!
> >
> > They are in rosapps.
> >
> > Casper
> >
> > Ros-dev mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[James Tabor]

Sorry wrong message reply,

We use the same password or did our account info change?
Thanks,
James

Jason Filby wrote:
> Hi all
>
> We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
>
> new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
> CVS username for auditability.
> On the 30th of December 2004 our existing CVS repository will be set
>
> to read-only and imported into Subversion (removing anything done
> during the test phase in SVN).
> On the 1st of January 2005 we will be using SVN for day-to-day source control!
>
> A wiki page describing how to use the new SVN system is here:
> http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?Subversion
>
> Thanks to Casper for all his hard work in bringing SVN online and to
> Rex for maintaining CVS for so many years!
>
> Cheers
> Jason

[Sylvain Petreolle]

--- Jason Filby [e-mail] a écrit :
> Hi all
>
> We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
>
> new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the same as your
> CVS username for auditability.

Is there an easy way to migrate a CVS tree to a SVN one ?
I already know I can do a CVS diff with my existing tree,
but I don't know SVN and therefore there could be another method.

=====
Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net)
humans are like computers,
yesterday the BIOS was all
- today its just a word

[Casper Hornstrup]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle
> Sent: 16. december 2004 11:09
> To: Jason Filby; ReactOS Development List
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Subversion Migration Plan
>
> --- Jason Filby [e-mail] a écrit :
> > Hi all
> >
> > We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> > A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
> >
> > new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup 
> > ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to 
> > create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the
>
> same as your
> > CVS username for auditability.
>
> Is there an easy way to migrate a CVS tree to a SVN one ?
> I already know I can do a CVS diff with my existing tree, but 
> I don't know SVN and therefore there could be another method.
>
> =====
> Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net)
> humans are like computers,
> yesterday the BIOS was all
> today its just a word
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

You want to transfer your local changes in your CVS working copy
to a Subversion working copy? I only know of two methods. One is
to commit your changes to CVS and then wait for the migration to
happen, and then checkout a Subversion working copy. The other is
to use cvs diff and GNU patch.

Casper

[Anich Gregor]

On Thursday 16 December 2004 13:00, Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> > [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle
> > Sent: 16. december 2004 11:09
> > To: Jason Filby; ReactOS Development List
> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Subversion Migration Plan
> >
> > --- Jason Filby [e-mail] a écrit :
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > We're moving from CVS to SVN (Subversion) and here's the plan:
> > > A two week testing period starts now! Please play around with the
> > >
> > > new setup and report any bugs to Casper Hornstrup
> > > ([e-mail]). You will also need to email Casper for him to
> > > create an account for you. Your SVN username must be the
> >
> > same as your
> > > CVS username for auditability.
> >
> > Is there an easy way to migrate a CVS tree to a SVN one ?
> > I already know I can do a CVS diff with my existing tree, but
> > I don't know SVN and therefore there could be another method.
> >
> > =====
> > Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net)
> > humans are like computers,
> > yesterday the BIOS was all
> > today its just a word
>
> You want to transfer your local changes in your CVS working copy
> to a Subversion working copy? I only know of two methods. One is
> to commit your changes to CVS and then wait for the migration to
> happen, and then checkout a Subversion working copy. The other is
> to use cvs diff and GNU patch.
>
> Casper

Hi!

Isn't it possible to use the same tree with CVS and SVN at the same time and 
just commit changes to both at the same time?

- blight