Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] 02/08: [NTOSKRNL] Forbid processes without the Tcb prvilege to perform a user-mode hard-error BSOD.

[Alex Ionescu]

So to be clear, while the kernel still has tons of incompatible code and
issues to barely run as a Win2003-compatible kernel, whenever there's an NT
design decision you disagree with, you're going to be rewriting the little
bit of code that _does work well_ to work contrary to how NT works? Did I
get that right?

Good luck.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO [e-mail]
wrote:
> Yes, to only allow programs that REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY ….. need to
> do so to trigger the hard-error “shutdown” BSOD from user-mode to do so,
> and these programs would better be only those that run only in SYSTEM
> rights, and more exactly these include CSRSS, WINLOGON and SMSS when
> something very bad happen to them.
>
> I would not appreciate, for example, that when I run a program under a
> not-so privileged account (like, some random user account) that has just
> the shutdown privilege to shut the computer down properly, that this
> program suddently “BSODS” my machine.
>
> To these programs, I say “f$ck these!”
>
> Regards,
>
> Hermès
>
> *De :* Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] *De la part de* Alex
> Ionescu
> *Envoyé :* lundi 2 avril 2018 04:20
> *À :* ReactOS Development List; Hermès Bélusca-Maïto
> *Cc :* Linda Wang
> *Objet :* Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] 02/08: [NTOSKRNL] Forbid processes
> without the Tcb prvilege to perform a user-mode hard-error BSOD.
>
> Is there a point to this blatant behavior change?
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Hermès Bélusca-Maïto <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
> https://git.reactos.org/?p=reactos.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> f0729b30bb79d6f538cf2b9578ff8ebe7989f8d3
>
> commit f0729b30bb79d6f538cf2b9578ff8ebe7989f8d3
> Author:     Hermès Bélusca-Maïto [e-mail]
> AuthorDate: Sun Apr 1 14:46:19 2018 +0200
> Commit:     Hermès Bélusca-Maïto [e-mail]
> CommitDate: Sun Apr 1 22:39:31 2018 +0200
> [NTOSKRNL] Forbid processes without the Tcb prvilege to perform a
> user-mode hard-error BSOD.
>
> ntoskrnl/ex/harderr.c | 14 ++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/ntoskrnl/ex/harderr.c b/ntoskrnl/ex/harderr.c
> index 84f409a1bb..a5200e3e74 100644
> --- a/ntoskrnl/ex/harderr.c
> +++ b/ntoskrnl/ex/harderr.c
> @@ -132,8 +132,18 @@ ExpRaiseHardError(IN NTSTATUS ErrorStatus,
>      /* Check if this error will shutdown the system */
>      if (ValidResponseOptions == OptionShutdownSystem)
>      {
>    /* Check for privilege */
>    if (!SeSinglePrivilegeCheck(SeShutdownPrivilege, PreviousMode))
>    /*
>     * Check if we have the privileges.
>     *
>     * NOTE: In addition to the Shutdown privilege we also check
>
> whether
>     * the caller has the Tcb privilege. The purpose is to allow only
>     * SYSTEM processes to "shutdown" the system on hard errors (BSOD)
>     * while forbidding regular processes to do so. This behaviour
>
> differs
>     * from Windows, where any user-mode process, as soon as it has
>
> the
>     * Shutdown privilege, can trigger a hard-error BSOD.
>     */
>    if (!SeSinglePrivilegeCheck(SeTcbPrivilege, PreviousMode) ||
>        !SeSinglePrivilegeCheck(SeShutdownPrivilege, PreviousMode))
>    {
>        /* No rights */
>        *Response = ResponseNotHandled;
>
>
>
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