Voting system

[Murphy, Ged (Bolton)]

This seems to have died a death again, so I'm going to bring it back up.

So far we have 2 viable options for the new voting system:

1. Have a new section in the forums where only the developer group has write
access.
    Conduct all votes in there using the forums built-in voting system and
posting mechanism for comments
    Vote results are stored in the database and everything is handled by the
software
    All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote.

2. Design our own voting system and integrate it into the website. 
    This will be controlled via the global login system and all devs will
have access to initiate, vote and comment on votes.
    Vote results need to be stored in a database and everything should
handled by the software
    All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote.

Any comments or additions?







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[Magnus Olsen]

Voting systemI tis good idea to new voting system
I do not know if 1 or 2 is best.  for they are simulare if we doing 2 we need write code
for it.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 
  To: 'ReactOS Development List' 
  Sent: den 19 October 2005 11:39
  Subject: [ros-dev] Voting system


  This seems to have died a death again, so I'm going to bring it back up. 

  So far we have 2 viable options for the new voting system: 

  1. Have a new section in the forums where only the developer group has write access. 
      Conduct all votes in there using the forums built-in voting system and posting
mechanism for comments 
      Vote results are stored in the database and everything is handled by the software 
      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote. 

  2. Design our own voting system and integrate it into the website. 
      This will be controlled via the global login system and all devs will have access to
initiate, vote and comment on votes.

      Vote results need to be stored in a database and everything should handled by the
software 
      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote. 

  Any comments or additions? 








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[Rick Langschultz]

Please let me state my opinion about the voting process. I think the  
voting process should be open to developers and users of reactos.  
Although I do not develop fully on reactos, or for reactos, I am  
planning on developing open-sourced components for reactos that would  
be available through my website and possibly submitted as a package  
for ReactOS. I believe that developers and end users should be  
allowed to vote because they provide the most feedback on not only  
the technical but the aesthetics of ReactOS. I think putting voting  
in the forum and only allowing developers anonymous voting is stupid.  
I think logging each members votes should be logged as well as  
session variables and ipaddresses. This will allow the voting to stay  
true. Just a few thoughts...
On Oct 19, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:

>   This seems to have died a death again, so I'm
> going to bring it  
>  back up.
>
>  So far we have 2 viable options for the new voting system:
>
>  1. Have a new section in the forums where only the developer group  
>  has write access.
>      Conduct all votes in there using the forums built-in voting  
>  system and posting mechanism for comments
>      Vote results are stored in the database and everything is  
>  handled by the software
>      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only  
>  one vote.
>
>  2. Design our own voting system and integrate it into the website.
>      This will be controlled via the global login system and all  
>  devs will have access to initiate, vote and comment on votes.
>
>      Vote results need to be stored in a database and everything  
>  should handled by the software
>      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only  
>  one vote.
>
>  Any comments or additions?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Brandon Turner]

I _strongly_ disagree with this.  Two reasons:
1) No way to make sure no one is cheating and not voting a bunch of times.
2) I don't think everyone voting is educated well enough on the topic.  
In the case coding questions like the macros vote we recently had, i 
didnt vote.  i barely trust my own knowledge and i dont want to leave it 
up to others that might know less then me to make the decsion.  In the 
case of a PC, I just dont think that a user that reads the message 
boards or the general mailing list will have enough info and feel for 
who should and shouldnt be a PC.  In both cases people with education on 
the topic will probably outnumber those who do know about it, and might 
skew things very badly.

Brandon

Rick Langschultz wrote:

>   Please let me state my opinion about the voting
> process. I think the 
>  voting process should be open to developers and users of reactos. 
>  Although I do not develop fully on reactos, or for reactos, I am 
>  planning on developing open-sourced components for reactos that would 
>  be available through my website and possibly submitted as a package 
>  for ReactOS. I believe that developers and end users should be allowed 
>  to vote because they provide the most feedback on not only the 
>  technical but the aesthetics of ReactOS. I think putting voting in the 
>  forum and only allowing developers anonymous voting is stupid. I think 
>  logging each members votes should be logged as well as session 
>  variables and ipaddresses. This will allow the voting to stay true. 
>  Just a few thoughts...
>  On Oct 19, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
>
> >   This seems to have died a death again, so I'm
> > going to bring it back up.
> >
> >  So far we have 2 viable options for the new voting system:
> >
> >  1. Have a new section in the forums where only the developer group 
> >  has write access.
> >      Conduct all votes in there using the forums built-in voting 
> >  system and posting mechanism for comments
> >      Vote results are stored in the database and everything is handled 
> >  by the software
> >      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one 
> >  vote.
> >
> >  2. Design our own voting system and integrate it into the website.
> >      This will be controlled via the global login system and all devs 
> >  will have access to initiate, vote and comment on votes.
> >
> >      Vote results need to be stored in a database and everything 
> >  should handled by the software
> >      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one 
> >  vote.
> >
> >  Any comments or additions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Magnus Olsen]

I dissagree complete from your idea. 
To use a sesson log of ip and cookies is easy to overcome and cheating I got over 4-6 new
dip number from my isp everyday.
Cookies is automatick deleteted from my computes. For it should not be loget.  

Only Devloper must vote, other wise we will lose the controll of the project. And last I
know we got 35 people with svn write access
and that is 35 people with votes.  And we devloper must make the most importen desction by
votiong. other people shall/must not votiong 

Your idea is a bad idea. the devloper must have the power to controll the project not u or
other that does not write code for reactos.
we devlioper talk with other on irc private or in the chanel #reactos what we think and we
are using also mailing list.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Langschultz 
  To: ReactOS Development List 
  Sent: den 19 October 2005 14:21
  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Voting system


  Please let me state my opinion about the voting process. I think the voting process
should be open to developers and users of reactos. Although I do not develop fully on
reactos, or for reactos, I am planning on developing open-sourced components for reactos
that would be available through my website and possibly submitted as a package for
ReactOS. I believe that developers and end users should be allowed to vote because they
provide the most feedback on not only the technical but the aesthetics of ReactOS. I think
putting voting in the forum and only allowing developers anonymous voting is stupid. I
think logging each members votes should be logged as well as session variables and
ipaddresses. This will allow the voting to stay true. Just a few thoughts...

  On Oct 19, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:


    This seems to have died a death again, so I'm going to bring it back up. 

    So far we have 2 viable options for the new voting system: 

    1. Have a new section in the forums where only the developer group has write access. 
        Conduct all votes in there using the forums built-in voting system and posting
mechanism for comments 
        Vote results are stored in the database and everything is handled by the software

        All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote. 

    2. Design our own voting system and integrate it into the website. 
        This will be controlled via the global login system and all devs will have access
to initiate, vote and comment on votes.

        Vote results need to be stored in a database and everything should handled by the
software 
        All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote. 

    Any comments or additions? 








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[Robert Köpferl]

Use what already is there: N° 1

Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
>   This seems to have died a death again, so I'm
> going to bring it back up.
>  
>  So far we have 2 viable options for the new voting system:
>  
>  1. Have a new section in the forums where only the developer group has 
>  write access.
>      Conduct all votes in there using the forums built-in voting system 
>  and posting mechanism for comments
>      Vote results are stored in the database and everything is handled by 
>  the software
>      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote.
>  
>  2. Design our own voting system and integrate it into the website.
>      This will be controlled via the global login system and all devs 
>  will have access to initiate, vote and comment on votes.
>  
>      Vote results need to be stored in a database and everything should 
>  handled by the software
>      All votes are anonymous / private and each developer has only one vote.
>  
>  Any comments or additions?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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